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Why would I lie? Like I said, I have no horse in this race - unlike you. I've only responded with what I consider to be verified facts.

What colonialist mentality? My country of birth never colonized anyone - unlike Muslim regimes, which colonized all of middle east and north Africa.

Rush 10mo ago

Yeah, bad faith allover..

Again, if you want truth go read the book I referred to, expose yourself to a new perspective.

FYI, nothing you said above is something I never heard before. I heard it all before, and I reject it all. Maybe there are kernels of truths here and there, but it's absolutely myopic it doesn't show anything but one perspective; the Western perspective. It has nothing to do with ours. So, if your truthful to your claim that you have no horse in this race, expose yourself other people's perspectives.

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Pj 10mo ago

What bad faith? Where?

Anyway, I've read quite enough about the topic already, considering it's not affecting me personally. In my experience truth is usually simple. It's lies that need to be complicated. So I'm not gonna read a whole book about this. If you can present these allegedly game-changing facts in a short paragraph or video I would be happy to consider them.

Rush 10mo ago

I explained it, you adopt a clearly Western perspective, which is bad faith under the claim of neutrality.

I'll find you a video for sure, as this cannot be put succinctly in one paragraph. Or maybe DYOR 😅.

Pj 10mo ago

It's not a western perspective, it's facts. But sure, I'll wait for your video.

Rush 10mo ago

Honestly, it is a Western perspective because only the West and their lackies accept them as facts. There is a totally different version of what happened and why it's happening elsewhere in the world. That's precisely why you got this reaction from me, and will probably continue to get this reaction from this who dont adhere to Western version of the story.

I picked this video not because it's comprehensive, but more because Ilan Pappe is an Israeli history professor and he is telling facts that he researched in Israeli archives. It only tells part of the story, but reality is the struggle started much earlier than 1948. Enjoy:

https://youtu.be/ldIfup1F8D4?feature=shared

If you wish to know more about it from a different perspective, please let me know. And finally, I apologize for the aggressive response.