Gotcha, I think this is one of the massive differences between protestant evangelicalism and orthodoxy. We have a long tradition of cultivating the presence of God within our communities, and an even longer history of persecution from the very leaders that claimed to be our heroes. Protestant groups that spurred from the great awakening seem to value a sort of spiritual experimentalism, individualist independance with an unnervingly weird uncompromised eschatalogical hope. I think history has showed the orthodox that moves of God rarely come from our rulers, but rather trials, tribulation, and persecution. If we want to experience God, we need not look further that seeking Him and His kingdom within us, pretty simple. So, i guess i dont qualify for your test case 😅