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Timeout trees can be used for lightning channels but it's not really their only use.

Lightning's biggest problem actually IS channel opens right now, it would take ~5.5 years to open 1 billion lightning channels right now. Whereas you could (in theory, but there are practical limits much lower) open 1 billion lightning channels in one transaction with CTV.

*Then* the problem becomes uncooperative closes (force closes and attempted thefts). If you have a billion people competing for block space to handle closes, that could get messy too.

But if we can use CTV to increase channel open capacity, and we can limit the need for uncooperative closes, then overall capacity dramatically increases.

Dave Coleman 1y ago

Closes are already a problem today. It will only increase if you start to open more channels with TT.

Currently it's cheap to open a channel, yet it costs a lot to force-close, and it happens all the time. CTV does nothing to help with that, nor does any other opcode proposal.

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Ademan 1y ago

They are *a* problem but they are not *the* problem if we can't open the channels to begin with. That's like saying the problem with a plane that can't fly is that it can't land.

Closures aren't remotely driving block congestion anyway.