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The recent discussions and negative sentiment surrounding the potential

filtering of

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coinjoin transactions appear to be driven primarily by speculation and

misunderstandings of how complicated spam filtering has historically been.

Filtering spam over the past two plus decades has consistently been a delicate

dance between accuracy and false positives, requiring ongoing adaptation and

refinement of filtering algorithms. This same principle applies to the potential

filtering of spam Bitcoin transactions.

Combating spam is a continuous and ever-evolving endeavor, similar to a

never-ending cat and mouse game. The notion of creating a static filter and

abandoning it is unrealistic. Constant adjustments and updates are necessary to

maintain their effectiveness. This situation is no different, and future

challenges will inevitably arise. When they do, we must question the situations

and infrom those running the application, mining pool, etc. of the potential

issues. By collaborating and openly sharing information, we can develop

solutions that address spam while safeguarding legitimate transactions and

privacy focused transactions.

Simply put: Have you ever encountered the frustration of searching for an

important email only to discover it buried in your spam folder? How did you fix

that? You instructed your email client to no longer flag those types of emails

as spam or you added the email sender to a safe sender list. Sometimes, this

worked right away and other times this took additional tweaking of spam

filtering algorithms. Still, this is so much easier than it used to be. Back in

the day, you'd have to send that email along with the headers to someone like me

and then I'd have to go update the SpamAssassin filters that I wrote.

I'm hopeful that they'll work it out.

Bitcoin doesn’t need a „Spam Filter“! A valid transaction is a valid transaction. Just because someone is using bitcoin in a different way than you doesn’t mean it’s wrong. Maybe both sides are wrong. Maybe both are right.

It doesn’t matter, because bitcoin has a very effective „Spam Filtering“ already implemented. It’s called transaction fees.

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Because Bitcoin is decentralized and does not have a ruler at the top making these decisions for you, if you do not like those rules, you can mine yourself or mine with another pool that meets rules that you agree with. We're all free to do what we want with Bitcoin.

Correct, but then you should stop name it spam. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it’s Spam.

Many people like mailing lists where they become news, tips and tricks once a week directly. They think it’s useful information. For me it’s useless, but it’s definitely not spam, because someone sees a value in it. Same thing for inscriptions. I think it’s useless bullshit no body needs, but this doesn’t make it spam because somebody sees a value in it.

As you already said, Bitcoin is a decentralized system. So any action of „filtering“ is useless because everyone can run it in a different way. Why are we investing time and energy in the attempt to exclude something from the blockchain when we already know that someone is including it either way?

Every effort we make is pointless and noting more than a waste of lifetime.

I really don’t get it 😅