Hey man I remember your comments in general (not only this convo here) and you seem like a mature dude to me.

Has bitcoin always handled disagreements in such immature and zero-real-dialogue manner? (ppl are calling each other names and constantly making fun of the otwhr “party”). For the first time I got into btc I’m actually really worried seeing the level of childishness and lack of capacity to carry out civil conversations

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I have all my net worth in bitcoin and it doesn’t surprise me that people are having a hard time being civil. There is a lot on the line for people. That being said I think the solution is run whatever software you want, and be done with it. You can’t control what other people do.

ok so you mean that ppl lost lucidity and civility because the stakes are very high.

Anyway super hakuna matata approach yours man, like it!

No I don’t think they lost their lucidity. I’m saying a lot of people are heavily invested in the future of Bitcoin and doing an action that might jeopardize that will illicit an emotional response.

The blocksize wars were much worse than this. (Ultimately led to a permanent chain split)

This knots/core debate is perceived to be much less of threat but there are many things that look REALLY REALLY fucking suspicious about core devs rn. (Talking about you @lopp, & Shinobi)

Shit doesn’t make sense. Their arguments are consistently flawed and sound manipulative. These are devs Ive followed and trusted forever.

—Freaks me the fuck out man.

Yeah, ive lost friends and followers over this.

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Thanks for replying man appreciate it. Even if I don't support it I'm not so worried about openin up op_return (and I don't think CP is real threat). What worries me is undeniable dodgy behaviour from some "main" core devs that obviously doesn't make sense.

Might be the first sign of something worse.... Better to be paranoid and safe than to fall into complacency and apathy!

Think again

Here I’m confused because I don’t have the technical expertise to get it:

1) some ppl say that with 100kb you can have a good enough picture that is easy to see (no need for complicated decrypting tools)

2) some other ppl say that it would still be encrypted enough and need very specific/difficult tools to see it

I guess I can’t believe that it’s all gonna come crash down so easily: increase to 100kb, cp clearly uploaded, end of bitcoin. Why isn’t everyone freaking out if this is the case?!

Anyway I see a lot more pressure coming up this last month to force core devs to reconsider their choice. Let’s hope they do so that we can go back to fighting together against external adversaries. If they don’t change their mind I guess we will find out as soon as core 30 is shipped out

By the way, this is an image of 100kb (looks clear enough to me, but i don’t get if it’s encrypted or not)

Usually that dodgy behaviour is the precursor to shitcoining

*Gained some followers over this 🤙🏼

I'm ignorant here. Don't know how to code. Just believer in Bitcoin and self custody.

Super suspicious. I never understood why they would defend stuffing OP Return with CP. why make it easier for weirdos to do nasty shit like that? Lopp and Shinobi acting confused and condescending on this issue enough where I don’t really like them anymore. Ask a genuine question and you get snark and venom… not cool.

We only have one chance to get this right.. let’s not fuck this up.

Yeah, this is pretty much my take as well. Something smells. I had always been in the camp that inscriptions are stupid; but, if they're willing to pay for the blockspace, so be it. But now, I just want node client software diversity in order to limit the influence any one of them has over the network as a whole.

100% bro. I always had that position about inscription bs. I just ignored it.

When nostr:nprofile1qqs8fl79rnpsz5x00xmvkvtd8g2u7ve2k2dr3lkfadyy4v24r4k3s4spz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsz8nhwden5te0dehhxarj94c82c3wwajkcmr0wfjx2u3wdejhgtcysa20h pointed out that core devs had blocked him for questioning op_return, I immediately started paying attention. I listened to hours of online debate and I’m sorry but the core devs argument is questionable at best.

I'm wondering if it's possible or feasible to remove a core dev from the "team" - I get that they're all over the place and just commit to git, but surely there's something we can do. I don't really care if they're genuinely bad actors or just incredibly insensitive people - if the result is changes that the community objects to, then there must be some mechanism to... lock them out, stop their funding, whatever, idk.

If that's the case, is somebody from Core (in your opinion) attempting to make BTC centralized? I've read bits and bobs of the Core/Knots arguments, and I personally don't care about that garbage to begin with, because it's minuscule to what happened in 2017 with the blocksize war.

Can’t say I agree with it, simply because I don’t know enough about the subject. But he lays out his argument nicely. The immune system analogy is 🔥

The core update is scheduled for next month. Is there even time for someone to do a bitcoin hard fork?

Would it be knots that would do the hard fork?

Bitcoin core are letting us down.