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The Kingdom of God is a state of the heart not an actual physical place. Said Kingdom is within and at hand. The Bible is an user manual on how to achieve this state. This manual has to be understood as whole otherwise it appears to contradict itself.

For me one of the greatest mysteries is how the King James version still makes mathematical sense even without certain chapters edited out (lookup the amazing mathematical coincidences). The Books of Enoch (Noah's grandfather) are such omissions. He was literally handpicked by God for being the best human ever.

It's best not to judge anyone for being an atheist or deeply religious. The Great Plan is unknown to all humans despite many contrary claims.

MAHDOOD 1mo ago

I’m not atheist.

When something like a religious text is open to interpretation, it leads to confusion and conflict. Think of the different sects that have gone to war with each other over disputes of interpretations. Sunni/shia, Catholics/protestants, Old Testament/talmud.

If your text can’t be interpreted from a literal sense, then violence and conflict is inevitable. I’ve seen people interpret verses from the Bible to try and prove that homosexuality is not a sin. Would you accept that? Of course not. Most would not either. But that won’t stop people from trying and won’t prevent unnecessary violence.

So these texts must be interpreted literally. Especially since the text itself doesn’t tell you to interpret it metaphorically. And when you interpret it literally, heaven is a physical place.

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Thursday 5∞ 1mo ago

I see your point. It's not my place to judge the choices of other people.

Try writing a paragraph, let alone an entire book, and try to understand it 2,000y from now. The meaning of words changes over time a lot. My favorite example is the etymology of 'yield'. 🤭

MAHDOOD 1mo ago

I agree it’s hard but books like meditations and the republic have held up very well. Regardless, a deity with infinite power and no limitations can make it work. The deity can preserve it or update. Or find a more useful means of communication like nostr.

Thursday 5∞ 1mo ago

Meditations is a different kind of book. It's a great read but it serves a different purpose.

The Bible is not a book but rather a collection of texts with many authors and one source of inspiration. All were written by people who managed to get themselves in a special state of heart and mind. The skeptics argue that it's written decades after the events so it can't be accurate. The thing is logic has its limits.

I've spent many years fighting it but I wasn't really reading it properly. This is why I can relate to both sides of the argument because I was in both worlds myself.

My advice to anyone enquiring about the Bible in good faith is to investigate it without prejudice. One day it will click but that moment is tailored specifically for your needs. This is my experience anyway. The Bible can be experienced and once it happens you'll see for yourself what's what. Then it's not a matter of belief but of knowing first hand.

MAHDOOD 1mo ago

But we’re talking about a religious text from the all powerful who intends for all of humanity to receive this message. And he chose one language in one region and one people to reveal it to. And he knowingly allowed it to be corrupted and did nothing as its message was lost over time.

And how do you even verify a collection of stories written by countless authors? Did you know that Jesus is not the first person that religion claimed to be born without a father? There’s been countless others. How can that be?

Thursday 5∞ 1mo ago

Just test it in good faith. I'm not sure if I can be any more clear about it. See for yourself if it holds water or not.

MAHDOOD 1mo ago

I’ve heard this a million times. Tried it countless times. People of all religions say this and swear it works. There is no other explanation for it than placebo.

Thursday 5∞ 1mo ago

I like some of their songs 🤭

Placebo I mean...

MAHDOOD 1mo ago

Is that a band?

Thursday 5∞ 1mo ago

Yeah. Could be 10y since I last listened to it. Thanks! 😅

MAHDOOD 1mo ago

Are they a good band?

Thursday 5∞ 1mo ago

Hard no but it's tight to some nice memories for me.

Thursday 5∞ 1mo ago

^Tied 🤭