There is no more debate to be had with the left. They abandoned that long ago. It's either their way or the highway. They refuse to give even a little. This is we want anything to return to normal, it likely can no longer be peaceful, though I wish it weren't so.

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Even though progressive bitcoiners love to talk about the political homogeneity of bitcoin ownership, they're only talking about people who ticked a box. I think the deep wealth in bitcoin is heavily concentrated in conservative/libertarian circles and that means, ultimately, mainstream politics and culture will be chasing that momey. Factor in thwir odious bloodthirst and I think the left will eventually self-select themselves out of a political home.