Perhaps users should consider posting to the relay as renting a billboard for display, with the user deciding whether to continue paying for the display.

It is essential to save the note locally, as the relay is merely a display medium. nostr:note1klzd09tqmmprc862r2vr6sl6z7n8kc65jwppy5yu02dy36us7ytq62fulw

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Indeed. Relays are businesses. You can ask a business to put your poster up in their shop window.

the first epoch of nostr has focused almost exclusively on clients, but the clients have not hardly made the effort to enable relays as a paid service, and the big funders of nostr dev have not seen many relay devs because we are the hidden cinderellas , only relay devs who also do front end get any attention from anyone

this is going to changne in this second epoch... too many of the problems plaguing nostr now are relay related

A natural progression, this is when a new batch of important interesting problems surface; redy to be pondered and solved.

indeed, and new people who are fit for the task :beaming:

Not good enough with storing locally. Then I can only find my own old notes. I want to be able to search the entire knowledge of entire universe within less than a second. So... there must be a way of monetization for public relays that do not delete anything. Which is pretty simple - send me monthly invoices and I'll pay them. And block service for my npub if I don't pay.

I really, really love this analogy. You guys are doing a great job on building a narrative for use!

I just tried out nostr:nprofile1qqsth7fr42fyvpjl3rzqclvm7cwves8l8l8lqedgevhlfnamvgyg78spz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduq3qamnwvaz7tmwdaehgu3wwa5kuegpz4mhxue69uhk2er9dchxummnw3ezumrpdejqj9swg4 and the thing I took away most is how much I love the concept of ecash to post on nostr. I will happily run an open public relay if each message came with a small amount of ecash (from a mint(s) the relay operator defined) to me in each message.

I also think users will happily pay this fee. There's about to be a lot of new Bitcoiners that have never made a Bitcoin transaction at all. Let's give them the coolest reason to use Bitcoin!

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