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This was an interesting (but disgusting) podcast: https://changelog.com/friends/78, with 3 main points:

- there is no "default familiar pleasant normie-friendly" way to log in, so Nostr shouldn't try to pander to this nonexisting standard.

- the people in the podcast even talk about the risk of centralizing all your passwords on 1Password, but they cannot even consider the possibility of Gmail having access to all your internet accounts or even cutting you out from your own account without notice, which are things that can and have happened.

- there is some shilling of passkeys, but no one touches the issue of what happens if the user loses or breaks their phone, and then suddenly they lose access to all their accounts everywhere.

Don't listen or you may vomit.

Passkeys also lead to vendor lock in, so they're pushed by anyone who stands to benefit from that

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No, many password managers support passkeys.

You can't easily move them to another password manager, AKA lock in

Passkeys are included in .json exports from Bitwarden. The ability to transfer your passkeys to or from another passkey provider is planned for a future release.

Cool, but can you import them into any other password manager? Also not everybody uses Bitwarden and most password managers don't even have the export feature.

Currently, there is no standardized way to export passkeys between different password managers, as they are designed to be secure and not easily transferable. However, the FIDO Alliance is working on specifications to allow for secure import and export of passkeys in the future.