You automatically assume that metaphysical arguments have no physical basis. That's why you assume that religious people are ignorant.
But metaphysical arguments are merely an abstraction layer higher.
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Atheism is caused by a lack of metaphysical information. It is not the result of greater logical faculties.
That is why people can convert from one to the other. They don't instantaneously become dumber or smarter. They merely lose or gain grasp of the metaphysical information.
Such as?
The idea that there is some greater Order or Purpose to existence. That some being or force that is outside of physics created physics. That physics was created for some reason. That things and people do not exist merely for their own sake. That there is a time beyond time.
The profound. Atheists suffer from (or are blessed by, depending upon how you see it) an insistence upon irrelevance and purposeless. That everything in existence is perhaps highly interesting, as a curiosity, but finally pointless.
I studied physics. All it does is try to describe what things do and categorise them accordingly.
Pretty fast, it becomes clear words are useless to describe even that.
To conflate that with some form of philosophy is an error. And to confuse it with reality beggars belief. That's why all data has error bars. Physics wasn't created, it's the best we can do to describe what things do. Not what they are.
Still not sure I get what you're saying.
I know.
Well, luckily I don't have to. Apparently I'm a gnostic according to some guy who doesn't understand what no thought means. So there you go. Burn me because I touched the face of god without a book.
This was sort of my point. Religious people can often understand physics, but nonreligious people often can't understand metaphysics.
Ah right, yeah well, yeah tgen im with you. Mind identification is the problem.
The religious are as guilty of that as the non religious.
Both think belief has something to do with it.
It does not.
I used to be a virulent atheist, before my Road to Damascus moment.
Whatever I do, I do fanatically. š
Iām an agnostic, that is, nothing is known or can be known.
In any closed system, it is impossible to understand anything outside it. As for the existence of a God, something created the universe, even if it is a simulation. This can be a natural or conscious event or entity, but we cannot know, nor can we ever know, nor can we even understand a conscious entity beyond our level of consciousness.
The reason I forgo belief, religion or spiritualism is that I am comfortable not knowing. People that are uncomfortable not knowing invent or worship possible answers.
