we tried LN zaps and we ran into reality

there is no easy self-custody on LN zaps as has been proven by the market -- perhaps if we get covenants in 2-5 years we'll be able to revisit this

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I’m excited about ecash zaps. This wasn’t a criticism at you or the effort. It’s a criticism leveled at people who continue to mistake ecash as a form of self-custody bitcoin. Ecash is good for what it is good for, but it’s not self-custody bitcoin. You weren’t saying that, but the note I replied to implied that.