Why is it frowned upon for a man to sign a prenup and protect his financial security when women protect their financial security by delaying marriage in order to pursue an education/career? That education is their fallback plan in case things don’t work out with YOU. And half of all marriages end in divorce so the odds are not good for you anyway. If she really loved you, she would’ve dropped out of school to have your babies. Most women don’t even consider marriage before they have some type of career. Think about that next time a woman tries to make you feel bad for wanting a prenup. Would you flip a coin to determine whether you lose half your money or keep it all? That’s essentially what you are doing when you get married without a prenup. There’s a 50% chance you lose half your money which is a coin toss. Flip the script on her: if she won’t marry you because you want a prenup then ask if she actually loves you?

Fwiw, I don’t like the idea of signing any contract that places the government as the middleman. Opt out of getting married altogether and establish a partnership that is fair according to both of your standards. If your partner is raising your children, she should be compensated for that. Pay her for it. Negotiate what is fair and reasonable for both of you. That way she can accumulate her own money and wealth. And if things don’t work out between you, she can walk away with what she earned. At any time. There is no coercion. You’re not tied to some creepy ritual that binds you together until death. And there is no cop with a gun forcing anyone to do anything based on the arbitrary judgment of a lawyer wearing a black robe. Everyone is always free to renegotiate whatever compensation they feel they feel they deserve at anytime. And anyone is free to walk away at anytime as well. Your partnership should be voluntary just like the relationship with your employer.

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I agree, but I would get married by the church at least. I feel humans need some form of "contract" with a clear set of rules. In this case, the church has a nice track record of rules for marriage that tries to push for lower time preference. That's my opinion at least.

I think options are good. I don’t like that marriage is mostly seen as something that the government has to be part of.

Totally agree with that

But without the government who would take away a man’s money after his wife cheats on him lol

And who would forcibly remove custody of his children and pets under threat of arrest and imprisonment? Such an abject scam.

There are 1138 legal provisions a state-signed marriage places upon signers in the U.S.. Do you think anyone even knows what those 1138 provision are? Fuck no they don’t.

Absolute insanity. The fact that pigs, I mean cops, can just break into your home and take away your children because they’ve decided your ex wife is more fit to be a parent is mind blowing.

Its why i will never marry. I dont care what anyone says to convince me. In my world marriage is not in my vocabulary.

Same. You can just have start a family and live together if that’s what you want. It’s not necessary to give it a label like marriage.

Marriage becomes messy when government is involved. Now everything you file changes. Plus women should hate Marriage because that means she becomes my property thats why she takes my last name but women hate this part and always defend it but its the truth...

Kiss the ring 💍

Its weird

It is weird… until she divorces him and takes the money he earned and the kids 😂

Imho if you feel the need for a prenup it’s probably an unconscious sign you ultimately don’t trust that person and fear your marriage will fail.

Given that 50% of all marriages end in divorce, I think it’s a legitimate fear that has nothing to do with trust. Trusting that anyone will dedicate their life to you for 40+ years until you die is unreasonable. A lot of things happen and people change.

I'd like to sign a prenup as a OP_RETURN if given the opportunity

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