Hi @fiatjaf,

I'm sorry to interrupt your moment on at the Friday night.

It looks guys in the community in Japan are bit confused with the note.

I was just wondering if you really were thinking about banning procedures or just joking.

I thought you were joking.

Really appreciate if you could share about your thought.

Not a big deal, just bit difficult for us to read the tone.

I hope you have a wonderful weekend.

Thanks.

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How can you be banned on Nostr?

I don't think it's possible, for now.

No, I mean if a relay blocks you what's stopping you from going to another one or making one?

I'm not sure, to be honest.

But if someone defines a protocol that allows relays to share a list of banned users mutually, what would happen?

I don't think it is effective and many relay owners would not prefer that way, but at least looks possible to define. That kind of thought.

That can be a potential issue if Nostr centralizes to a few large relays. As long as it's possible to run your own relay and that there are people run relays that like the idea of free speech, I don't think you'll have any issues.

Yeah. I agree with you. The most of relay owners do not like doing that way, I believe. Mine was just a narrow possibility.

Yeah. Thanks for bringing that up. I think the main issue once relays start banning people for their speech is alternative relay discoverability. For example, if the sysop of nostr.band bans me we wouldn't be able to communicate since it's the only relay that we have in common.

It would be nice to have an immutable list of relays that currently exist. Probably something like the PGP keyserver protocol where a sysop can submit their relay address signed with their npubs. The keyservers can then share their contents with each other to make the records uncensorable.

That hypothetical protocol could also probably borrow the idea of revocation certificates to remove a old relay record in the server.

🙏🧡

It was just a joke, I can't ban anything, I don't even run any relays or clients.

But if I could...

😂😂

そしてお茶目なお兄さん

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Thanks.

Of course, we know you've always been nice to us.

Again, sorry to interrupt your time and I hope you'll have wonderful weekend.

無粋と思いつつも聞いたら兄さん親切にも答えてくれましたよ。

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無粋と思いつつも聞いたら、親切にも兄さん答えてくれましたよ。

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Merci littéralement je pensais que c'était un début de banissments

I wish I understood 1/10th of this conversation. Closer to a Luddite than a tech guru. Here bec of Matt Taibbi mention.

Ayant lu cette note après avoir remarqué dans beaucoup d'interactions relatives à des moyens biaisés par certains pour obtenir le sésame pour accéder à ce site. Autrement dans le sens de note, il en serait aussi de même pour M. Tweet avec son jouet ? Car nonostant le fait que beaucoup d'utilisateurs NOST continuent via nos interactions de polluer l'espace N O S.T.R. en lien avec le site de *M. Tweet donc il serait-ik de même pour ce site!? Merci pour votre feedback si toutefois vous en avez la possibilité . BIen à vous et Bonjour de Paris

I am still not 100% confident that I understand your thought because of the machine translation.

However, I do not think here is different from Twitter because of the protocol specialized for decentralization. It looks no one can own the realm of Nostr. Anybody can run a relay server which all the existing users can post and read the note with.

Je vous remercie pour ce retour, en fait mon propos est juste une suite de la note précédente de #[4] dans laquelle toute évocation d'un site social cofinancé de manière participative par la plateforme de M. Tweet avant qu'il en devienne propriétaire avec les mêmes critères précédemment cités, de ce social dépend d'un autre protocole différent de N.O.S.T.R . (Github). Raison de mon feedback qui concerne la possibilité de bannissement pour toute évocation de ce réseau social sur N.O.S.T..R . donc ma question est de savoir si les *Nostriciens* vont continuer d'évoquer la plateforme de M. Tweet . Je rappelle que M. Tweet a dû toute de même interdire toute évocation de N.O.S.T.R. 'sur sa plateforme centralisée. J'ose espèrer que vous ayiez plus de compréhension de mes 3 notes . Bien à vous et merci infiniment