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If LN is private it's only because nobody is looking (yet).

and its only sender privacy, we know receive privacy is nonexistent.

But you're really just giving up custody arent you??? Just recreate the fiat system online and trust the bank right? 😩

You don't have to give up any custody to use lightning, you just have to run your own node. (It's hard I admit)

With a bit of effort you can receive with privacy as well.

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I have been looking into the Alby Hub thing...

But yeah, so far LN has definitely not been a legitimate privacy tool. Maybe the UX improving with sovereign nodes will change that.

or maybe ecash will.

but they haven't yet and every year the maxis are crowing about *something* that will do the job.

but there's just nothing so far except noise.

monero remains undefeated.

Have you looked into Zeus? Only lightning wallet with acceptable privacy from the LSP.

I installed it after their big update to try it out.

It did not just work and I couldn't be pissed to screw around with it

Yeah it's a bit clunky but worth looking into it. First lightning wallet I feel comfortable using instead if xmr. For most things at least.

I use Phoenix for when I need to use LN.

It's ok for my threat model.

Pretty clean wallet but they see the destination of your payments. I like their buying incoming liquidity option. Soon Zeus will have the same.