Forum logs for 01 Mar 2014

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[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.13311598 = 0.3993 BTC [-]

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Guest4752

soo what's new

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Now talking on #bitcoin-assets

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Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com - most days worth reading || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com - all days worth reading

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Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Nov 27 22:34:53 2013

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mircea_popescu

kakobrekla you tihnking of making an irc network ?

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agamemnon23

AndrewJackson Anduck Apocalyptic arij Asa9 asciilifeform assbot Azelphur

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agamemnon23

AndrewJackson Anduck Apocalyptic arij Asa9 asciilifeform assbot Azelphur

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kakobrekla

well, it was more of a joke and id rather not, but if it comes to it, i would.

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kakobrekla

like the 15th standard you know.

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mircea_popescu

it's a bitch to run them tho, because ddos.

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asciilifeform

did anyone ever step up with decent hosting for whatever?

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mircea_popescu

i'd much rather add servers to freenode's pool than split the effort.

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mircea_popescu

then again, that'd require them extracting head from bunghole, which may prove more difficult.

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asciilifeform

phuctor is still languishing on a godforsaken EC2

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mircea_popescu

asciilifeform not rly any serious btc hoster as of yet

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asciilifeform

phuck.

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mircea_popescu

it's only been 5 years of btc so...

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kakobrekla

well it depends on the size i guess, we have a small alter irc network in slovenia with like 200 people and 3 or so servers, works just fine for years

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mircea_popescu

kakobrekla and then agency X wants to send 100gbit floods because why not.

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jurov

asciilifeform: what about SDF?

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jurov

http://sdf.lonestar.org/

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SDF Public Access UNIX System - Free Shell Account and Shell Access

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asciilifeform

jurov: i thought that was a 'free shell for people learning unix' thing

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jurov

no, iirc they offer full paid package

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asciilifeform

jurov: for btc?

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kakobrekla

im not saying it cant happen but small fishes dont stand out

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mircea_popescu

kakobrekla yeah but once we move assets there it becomes huge fish

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jurov

they don't even take linux seriously. don't ask them about btc

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asciilifeform

mircea_popescu, kakobrekla: at least when irc.assets.whatever gets ddosed, we'll know that it's for us and not for some lamer on #l33td00dz or whatnot.

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[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00482998 = 2.415 BTC [-] {3}

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kakobrekla

heh

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mircea_popescu

this is true.

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mircea_popescu

then again...

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mircea_popescu

kakobrekla keeps being rude and arrogant to customer support ppls

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kakobrekla

:(

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kakobrekla

they are rude.

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mircea_popescu

that guy was lulzy.

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jurov

he's actually lucky kako did not start with slander

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kakobrekla

lol

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kakobrekla

!b 5

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mircea_popescu

kakobrekla if you ever get a pet salamander

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mircea_popescu

you gotta name it slander

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kakobrekla

bah more

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kakobrekla

!b 10

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mircea_popescu

slander the slender salamander

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Diablo-D3

wtf happened now?

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kakobrekla

lol

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mircea_popescu

btw what does this do

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Jere_Jones

I'd just like to reiterate that I appreciate the advice -assets gave me about trying to buy goxbtc. Thanks folks.

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mircea_popescu

!b 65536

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kakobrekla

endoftheworld.swf

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mircea_popescu

ahahaha

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asciilifeform

!b -1

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mircea_popescu

!b $maxint

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jurov

!b NaN

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mircea_popescu

!b usagi

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jurov

usagi is not positive nor integer

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mircea_popescu

you dare slander usagi's integrity ?

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asciilifeform

any of you folks own a USB fault injector?

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mircea_popescu

what are you, like my sockpuppet ?

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asciilifeform

or care to recommend one

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mircea_popescu

asciilifeform is this some new sexual slang ?

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asciilifeform

i wanna see what cardano's usb controller does with malformed frames

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asciilifeform

(to trip 'fail deadly' mechanism)

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Bugpowder

mircea_popescu: deposit flush plz

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jurov

mircea_popescu: it is already known what happens to mpoe in a hour and half?

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jurov

is coinbr likely to survive it? :DDD

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mircea_popescu

jurov i can't imagine why coinbr'd suffer.

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asciilifeform

do we have some apocalypse scheduled?

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mircea_popescu

Bugpowder aite.

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Bugpowder

tx tx

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asciilifeform

damn i should actually read the logs, shouldn't i

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mircea_popescu

asciilifeform just the regularly scheduled mpoe statement

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asciilifeform

aha

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[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 92 @ 0.00482963 = 0.4443 BTC [-] {4}

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jurov

asciilifeform mpoe bot has no info about market rates, so i'm curious how it will autoexercise

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bones`

what would it take to be a serious BTC host?

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jurov

or if mpoe strts spewing garbage instead

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kakobrekla

i think most serial was cloudify or something like that

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[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 90 @ 0.00482985 = 0.4347 BTC [+] {2}

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mircea_popescu

bones` like a decade of experience in the field, actual connections, actual rented floor in multiple dcs, working relationships with the dc management, the tier 1 bw providers and parts suppliers.

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mircea_popescu

also puppet.

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assbot

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.00482999 = 0.3864 BTC [+] {2}

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asciilifeform

mircea_popescu: sounds costly.

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bones`

It is

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kakobrekla

incloudibly is what i ment

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diametric

man I wish I had a laser cutter with a powered Z axis

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kakobrekla

http://incloudibly.com/en/cloud

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DDoS Protected Cloud Hosting, Cloud VPS - Free DDos Protection - Free 7-day Trial :: Incloudibly

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bones`

That's what I do by trade, and obviously I'm new here trying to expand my mind a bit

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kakobrekla

i think that best you can get now :

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asciilifeform

diametric: wonder if something like a powered 'whoopie cushion' would work

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bones`

A few others and I have a hosting company but we're only in Philly right now

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mircea_popescu

asciilifeform yeah well, it's not as costly as diametric's 3d printer farm

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diametric

asciilifeform: that doesn't speak precision to me

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mircea_popescu

Bones_ so how many cages you run ?

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bones`

Two, we're still small and boostrapped

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mircea_popescu

:large 9000 various start-ups, whether on broadway, off broadway, off-off broadway etc that try it.

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ThickAsThieves

i'm not even sure what purpose this doodad serves

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-CiPi-

13:21:23 up 47 days, 22:19, 0 users, load average: 0.02, 0.02, 0.00

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ThickAsThieves

i can click all the tags!

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mircea_popescu

i could never point to one that succeeded

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mircea_popescu

and yet each year...

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[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 10 @ 0.13311598 = 1.3312 BTC [-]

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mircea_popescu

incidentally, re ukraine : http://www.atomicarchive.com/Docs/Deterrence/Trilateral.shtml

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mircea_popescu

back when the us was still a sovereign, it promised (together with russia) to defend the ukrainian border if ukraina agrees to dismantle nukes.

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mircea_popescu

meanwhile russia is still a sovereign, but the us is not sovereign anymore.

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[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.13311598 BTC [-]

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nubbins`

"that depends on what your definition of 'defend' is"

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mircea_popescu

nope, notrly.

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asciilifeform

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/publishers-withdraw-more-than-120-gibberish-science-and-engineering-papers/

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ozbot

Publishers Withdraw More than 120 Gibberish Science and Engineering Papers - Scientific American

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asciilifeform

shannonizer ftw!

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assbot

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.05099 = 0.102 BTC [+]

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mircea_popescu

lol

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assbot

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 30 @ 0.0056 = 0.168 BTC [+]

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assbot

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 27 @ 0.0056 = 0.1512 BTC [+]

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ThickAsThieves

there's one guy out there that's like, Wait I was serious! I'm not a machine!

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mircea_popescu

ahjahaha

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4748 @ 0.00087076 = 4.1344 BTC [+]

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ninjashogun

haha

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ninjashogun

who was that

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[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.00560987 = 0.1963 BTC [+]

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mircea_popescu

"The quantum droplet is made up of roughly five electrons and five holes. It possesses some characteristics of a liquid, like having ripples, the scientists said."

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mircea_popescu

clearly, ripple wins at quantum.

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mircea_popescu

anyway : new particle.

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mircea_popescu

the dogeplet.

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asciilifeform

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mircea_popescu

asciilifeform obviously i misread "ripple cunt"

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asciilifeform

ahahaha

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mircea_popescu

which i suppose is nubbins`'s next band

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mircea_popescu

once they're done dicking around with the dick

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asciilifeform

'Most of the conferences took place in China, and most of the fake papers have authors with Chinese affiliations.'

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mircea_popescu

spam.cn

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nubbins`

DICK SURGERY!

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[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 121 @ 0.0056 = 0.6776 BTC [-]

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nubbins`

https://twitter.com/CBCWam/status/439718120354086912/photo/1/large

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ozbot

Twitter / CBCWam: Look at all the brand new CDS ...

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nubbins`

that's one of our albums (atelier bleu!) on top of the pile :D

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nubbins`

shoulda put dick surgery on top.

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ThickAsThieves

"Just noticed my TOR wallet emptied a couple of days ago"

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ThickAsThieves

lol

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ThickAsThieves

Just noticed my lawn gnome was stolen

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ThickAsThieves

and now all i have is these pictures

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mircea_popescu

OMFG GUISE someone stoled my lawn

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mircea_popescu

aw shit too slow again

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ThickAsThieves

crimean!

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ThickAsThieves

it has both crime and mean in it

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ThickAsThieves

word of the month!

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nubbins`

so we got our enormous-carbon-footprint 6.25% organic tank tops in for the yoga studio (eco-friendly!)

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nubbins`

they don't even say "organic" on the label, anywhere

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nubbins`

hahaha

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ThickAsThieves

lol

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nubbins`

fuck this client

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ThickAsThieves

i was at an event last night where the speaker told the crowd to only eat orgasmic veggies

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ThickAsThieves

especially if you eat the skin

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nubbins`

people don't eat the skin?!

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ThickAsThieves

and fruits*

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ThickAsThieves

well, like bananas

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ThickAsThieves

kiwis

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ThickAsThieves

etc

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asciilifeform

re: 'scigen': all the 'authors' would need to do now is to adjust the rng

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asciilifeform

the problem of 'tell shit from shinola programmatically' is ai-complete

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asciilifeform

anyone is welcome to try it even for 'arxiv vs snarxiv' (http://snarxiv.org/vs-arxiv)

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mircea_popescu

snarxiv hahaha.

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mircea_popescu

people here know everything don't they.

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nubbins`

ah, good point

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nubbins`

what sort of deviant would eat a banana peel ;(

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ThickAsThieves

well it is probly the most orgasmic fruit

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mircea_popescu

hahaha

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ThickAsThieves

other than maybe cucumbers

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ThickAsThieves

but to you'd have to "fruit" "loosely" if using a cucumber

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ThickAsThieves

use*

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mircea_popescu

can someone link me to the log where i rant about how if someone had an idea they didn't have an idea until someone in power says so ?

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ThickAsThieves

not sure if you ever quite put it that recursively

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mircea_popescu

i didn't

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mircea_popescu

i can't remember what the fuck exactly i said and so i can't grep too efficiently.

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ThickAsThieves

say something new then

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mircea_popescu

meh.

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ThickAsThieves

it'll be more memorable this time

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ThickAsThieves

use a fucked up analogy

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ThickAsThieves

itll help

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mircea_popescu

lmao

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asciilifeform

mircea_popescu: the 'art' piece?

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mircea_popescu

asciilifeform i think it was around that discussion, but not exactly.

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mircea_popescu

i was ranting at either tat or thestringpuller i think

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mircea_popescu

fucking hell i need ai.

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mircea_popescu

why doesn't grep take gestures!

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[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 138 @ 0.00544066 = 0.7508 BTC [-] {6}

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nubbins`

mp, ever read any Federico Garcia Lorca? was reminded of him earlier

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assbot

[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 318 @ 0.00050177 = 0.1596 BTC [+] {7}

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nubbins`

cohen named his daughter after him

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nubbins`

always meant to pick some up, never quite got around to it

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asciilifeform

nubbins`: the fellow with 'guardia civil, alma de charol' ?

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assbot

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.05055 = 0.1011 BTC [-] {2}

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nubbins`

computer says yes

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[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 16 @ 0.05003136 = 0.8005 BTC [-] {5}

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mircea_popescu

Jan 25 16:40:13 we're not equal, even if we can type the same strings in a box they still aren't the same strings. depends whose name signs on them. we're not equal, even if two people have "the same idea", in one head it's an idea, in another head it's nothing.

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mircea_popescu

fuck me.

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mircea_popescu

it was worth having it searched for. look at that beauty.

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nubbins`

colored strings

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mircea_popescu

nubbins` yes.

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asciilifeform

what was the context here

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asciilifeform

'Quod licet Jovi...' ?

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mircea_popescu

the context is complicated.

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mircea_popescu

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-01-2014#459312

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ozbot

#bitcoin-assets log

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mircea_popescu

basically me having an explosion over kids putting themselves in the whoodchipper

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ThickAsThieves

fukn shit ... 19 AM shares lost in error on my last week. Grrr

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mircea_popescu

the kids are playing the ceo, the woodchipper is chipping away

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assbot

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 44 @ 0.00559998 = 0.2464 BTC [+]

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ThickAsThieves

never fucked up til now

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mircea_popescu

thickasukto.

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ThickAsThieves

well at least i can afford to fix it

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ThickAsThieves

fukn gmail and threaded emails caused it

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nubbins`

that's the spirit

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asciilifeform

if i understand correctly, this is just the difference between armchair general and actual general

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ThickAsThieves

btw you see people shares ukyo's facebook?

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kakobrekla

oh yeah whats with the ukyo now

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kakobrekla

did he pay up or what

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ThickAsThieves

https://www.facebook.com/jon.montroll

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[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.00559998 = 0.196 BTC [+]

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ThickAsThieves

nope

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kakobrekla

or did he have the coins on gox

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kakobrekla

cause that WOULD be fun.

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kakobrekla

wait his name is MonTroll

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kakobrekla

and you expect him to pay!?

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nubbins`

mon ami, votre troll

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ThickAsThieves

hehe

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[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.051 = 0.153 BTC [+]

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nubbins`

or is that too stiff? ton troll if you prefer

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kakobrekla

seems like hawaiian troll of men

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nubbins`

brb reboot

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nubbins`

46 days uptime on a laptop ;o

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kakobrekla

mine is longer.

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ThickAsThieves

heh, Friedcat is covering the 19 shares :)

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ThickAsThieves

i got a bailout

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mircea_popescu

asciilifeform you understand correctly.

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assbot

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23885 @ 0.00086496 = 20.6596 BTC [-] {3}

[17:44]

mircea_popescu

also this is for an article im about to write so you'll see what i want to say by it presently.

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ThickAsThieves

that reminds me

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ThickAsThieves

i was reading the MPOE statement

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mircea_popescu

wait his name is MonTroll

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nubbins`

you got soxxed

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peterl

Namworld: and there are people talking about resurecting Gox, can't we just let the pile of crap die now?

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Namworld

I sold at 90%

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Namworld

10% cut, just after withdrawals were stopped.

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peterl

did you get your fiat out?

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ThickAsThieves

yeah everyone thinks they can brute force the wallets

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ThickAsThieves

i say let em be

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Namworld

lol, brute force wallets.

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nubbins`

http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/03/01/146223/using-google-maps-to-intercept-fbi-and-secret-service-calls

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ozbot

Using Google Maps To Intercept FBI and Secret Service Calls - Slashdot

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ThickAsThieves

there are some serious issues for small businesses and google

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assbot

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.00549996 = 0.22 BTC [+] {3}

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ThickAsThieves

random restaurant owner has no clue what to do

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ThickAsThieves

slaves to tripadvisor and shit

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ThickAsThieves

victims of a complaint system masquerading as a reviw

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ThickAsThieves

reviews*

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ThickAsThieves

then savvy ones buy fake reviews

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ThickAsThieves

hurting consumer

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ThickAsThieves

business RPG

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assbot

[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00020285 = 0.2029 BTC [+] {2}

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assbot

[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 243 @ 0.00088164 = 0.2142 BTC [+] {2}

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assbot

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 13 @ 0.0213 = 0.2769 BTC [-] {2}

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nubbins`

http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2014/need-a-water-filter-peel-a-tree-branch-0226.html

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ozbot

Need a water filter? Peel a tree branch - MIT News Office

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nubbins`

won't work for cryptosporidium, but still impressive

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ThickAsThieves

"This is a technology institute. I don't believe there are any communication courses here."

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ThickAsThieves

says so much

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ThickAsThieves

"This quote from your article aludes to plants having some sort of intelligence and a brain. This is rather disturbing to me coming from such a prestigious campus. This thinking must originate from some primitive caveman type of superstition. Otherwise this is a wonderful article."

[18:25]

asciilifeform

mit, obligatory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIhk9eKOLzQ

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ThickAsThieves

is Vitalik from MIT?

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ThickAsThieves

hehe http://about.me/vitalik_buterin

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nubbins`

heh, commenters are such wet blankets

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ThickAsThieves

should have lasers coming out of his eyes

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ThickAsThieves

University of Waterloo

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kakobrekla

>Full-time Cryptocurrency 2.0 Advocate

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kakobrekla

oh my.

[18:27]

ThickAsThieves

yeah the new company line is bitcoin is outdated, havent you heard

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ThickAsThieves

so many problemz with it

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ThickAsThieves

like i dont own any

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ThickAsThieves

etc

[18:28]

kakobrekla

mhm

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nubbins`

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/st-john-s-man-living-in-shed-after-booted-out-of-housing-1.2555839

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ozbot

St. John's man living in shed after booted out of housing - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News

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nubbins`

a particularly insightful comment: "another sensational story by the CBC over dramatising as usual .....and indeed scrapping the bottom of the barrel ...give us a justin bieber story please"

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assbot

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9645 @ 0.00087078 = 8.3987 BTC [+]

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ThickAsThieves

"What a heart wrenching one sided story."

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ThickAsThieves

hehe

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nubbins`

cbc comments, in particular, are fucking brutal

[18:30]

nubbins`

that fucking dickhead "froglips" comments on every. single. story.

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nubbins`

that said, this is a ridiculous excuse of a news story

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ThickAsThieves

from the lips of frogs

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assbot

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 28 @ 0.05005714 = 1.4016 BTC [-] {2}

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chetty

Upper house to demand recall of Moscow ambassador to U.S.

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nubbins`

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-crisis-putin-gets-parliamentary-approval-for-military-use-1.2556228

[18:33]

ozbot

Ukraine crisis: Putin gets parliamentary approval for military use - World - CBC News

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nubbins`

eep

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assbot

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 28 @ 0.00549999 = 0.154 BTC [+]

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assbot

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.09799997 = 0.196 BTC [+] {2}

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asciilifeform

nubbins`: love the weasel man in that piece

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asciilifeform

there is no grey

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nubbins`

ukraine or homeless guy?

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ThickAsThieves

http://imgur.com/4lPPqXa

[18:38]

ozbot

imgur: the simple image sharer

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asciilifeform

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mircea_popescu

http://trilema.com/2014/pro-idiotas-which-obviously-means-people-who-have-ideas-ie-idiots/

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ozbot

Pro idiotas, which obviously means, people who have ideas. Ie, idiots. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mirce

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assbot

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 20 @ 0.02001759 = 0.4004 BTC [-] {6}

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mircea_popescu

like i dont own any

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr.

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