signal is a shit like whatsapp but foss, and without an effective business model.

What can be wrong?

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Both based on xmpp, why not just simply install xmpp on your own server and say goodbye to them?

they are no more based on xmpp and diverged from long time. But, basically, the reason I use them is network effect. Othere people use it, so I use it to communicate with them.

Frankly I hate signal cause is a "just slightly better wallet garden" but noone uses it. So is another shitty app on my phone to talk to two guys, I hate it more than whatsapp that at least permit me to do backdoored communications with all my contacts.

I meant "walled garden"

Your comment summons the edit/no edit wars to your very doorstep!

Yeah 😂, I think the way amethyst does it is good, a sort of replace-with-the-new-note

Signal for me is the worst thing I will use to talk to normies. Can't find WhatsApp on f-droid lol

whatsapp is full proprietary code, so its not on fdroid.