> as demonstrated by the fact that you didn't even know this treaty

That's an assumption _you_ are making. I'm quite aware of these treaties and the debates about Ukraine's conduct. As I said, there are plenty of people making legal arguments that Ukraine is violating all kinds of international laws on conduct during warfare. I even gave you a specific example before you wrote the above, the large scale killing of wounded Russians with drones.

Another example is how Ukraine has widely dispersed military infrastructure in the midst of civilian infrastructure to make it harder for Russian forces to find; I personally have seen examples of this in Ukraine, eg military equipment being hidden in unmarked civilian buildings. Amnesty International famously argued that Ukraine should strictly abide by international law and move all military infrastructure away from civilian infrastructure, where it would be easy for Russians to identify. While "law abiding", it would be absurd for Ukraine to actually do this. They'd just lose the war.

Your arguments are quite similar to what Amnesty International was doing there: arguing the letter of law when the ethics and practicality demands something else.

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> military equipment being hidden in unmarked civilian buildings

This is grey area stuff, and nowhere near the near the level of what you've been proposing. I do not hold Ukraine to the standard of squeaky cleanness.

I also suspect (and hope) they evacuate at least the immediate vicinity.

As for killing wounded soldiers. Obviously a war crime if it happens as you're stating, but video footage is generally not enough context. But it wouldn't tip the scale for me in favor of Russia.

What I'm proposing is the conduct of the Allies in WW2. We recognized back then that we were fighting an economic war, and freely targeted economic targets of all kinds. Wiping out German and Japanese cities to defeat the Axis was fine; wiping out Russian cities to defeat Russia is also fine.

Saying we were the good guys then, and Ukraine can do the same things now to win, should not be a controversial statement. It is in some circles – when I went to art school some of the teachers were so anti-Western that they were practically engaging in Holocaust denial in their efforts to portray the allies as the bad guys. But those people are nuts.

Re: wounded soldiers, have you actually watched any significant amount of video footage from the war? Dropping grenades on wounded, immobile, Russians is a common activity. There's no secret this is commonly done and it's a topic that gets repeatedly discussed.

Feels to me that your just unwilling to accept that Ukrainians do in fact consider the "laws" of war to not be hard and fast rules that should be adhered to scrupulously at the cost of their own lives.

US troops did that in the war on terror, resulting in tens of thousands killed by restrictive ROEs even with enormous military advantages. Ukrainians don't have that luxury.

Here's another good example of Ukrainians being pragmatic: https://kyivinsider.com/russias-largest-cities-rocked-by-wave-of-coordinated-arson-and-explosions/

Nothing has been admitted officially AFAIK. But it looks like Ukrainian intelligence is defrauding, coercing, blackmailing, and straight up paying Russians on a large scale into committing acts of arson and sabotage, mostly against "civilian" targets.

Is that "clean" and "ethical"? Meh. It's effective. If you can defraud or coerce a desperately poor Russian pensioner into setting a business on fire and causing $100k of damage, that probably translates into something like $20k less tax revenue for the Russian government from the business, and wasting another $20k of government money on a trial and imprisonment. $40k less going to war is probably in the ballpark of what it would take to prevent one Ukrainian casualty.

...and yet another example posted today of a Ukrainian drone killing a wounde, unarmed (his rifle got stolen), Russian left abandoned on a stretcher:

https://video.nostr.build/967ed7a43a78e7f2196a7c149289b8d962bad9a54718f644d38fb0b9bb620cc7.mp4

Fine by me. He was either going to die, or be eventually rescued and likely returned to the front line to kill more Ukrainians.

No reason to abide by this "law of war" when Russia is straight up executing Ukrainian PoWs on a large scale. You're just sacrificing your own men for deeply evil scumbags.