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I care enough to point out where this inevitably leads. One day, hopefully soon, I'll demonstrate exactly what I do care about and what the focus of my energy is. It is concerning that you don't care whether you're hosting notes with links to CP. Do you not care for legal consequences? I mean, let's be honest, they're pretty minimal in the UK, but still. It's not a good look.
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mike 6mo ago

Despite living in a very affluent area of the country, there’s probably drug trafficking, murder and slavery going on within a 5 mile radius of me.

There’s also billions of poor, starving and abused people on the planet.

I don’t care.

Not only that, I’m not capable of caring at that level. If I were, it would destroy my life and incapacitate my ability to function.

It’s likely that some of the servers my companies hosted between the 1980’s and early noughties carried very serious illegal material.

I am not capable of caring at either that level of abstraction or volume.

If you show me some illegal content hosted on my relay, I would have to close it down because I would and am capable of caring about a tangible event.

I am not, however capable of changing my server or removing that content without dedicating weeks or months of study and practice to learn how to do that.

I don’t care to do that.

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Matt 6mo ago

Yet the owners of nostr.build cared enough to make sure their servers couldn't be used for that purpose, from the get go, because they're aware of the ethical and legal ramifications of not caring. Their system may not be perfect, there may occasionally be an issue, I don't know, but at least they've done what they can.

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mike 6mo ago

Yes, they care.

I care about a lot of things that you don't but should.

There are an infinite number of things you should care about, but don't, just as there are for me.

If I was a developer and built a custom service like nostr.build I would care alot about that server.

They are right to care about their service.

If I had invested more than 30 seconds of setup time for my relay or if I ran it professionally or offered any kind of guarantees about it I would care. But for the 30 seconds of invested time, I don't have the time or inclination to care.

I care a lot about trying to convince you I don't care, however 😂

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Matt 6mo ago

I forsee serious issues for people in the future if things don't change. I'll tell you why it's pissed me off too - because it was there, on my screen. Only for fractions of a second but that was too much. It won't be much of a legal defence to say 'yeah but I didn't know or care' if and when that day comes. Relay operators will be treated much the same as content hosting platforms. For the time being, the only relay I'll run is the one on my phone. Till such a time as the tools are there to prevent the bad stuff, or until there's some clear indication that efforts are being made, it simply isn't worth the risk of running a public relay.