Is there any real defense to the government shutting the Internet off on you?

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Starlink? Sounds like an nostr:nprofile1qqsrkl7gyds37xh2af37uwlknvjm32ska3hgr5d0cwgzdqy0ux2r2ncpramhxue69uhkummnw3ez6vpn9ejx7unpveskxar0wfujummjvuhsz8thwden5te0dehhxarj95crytnev94kj6r0dehx2tnrdakj7dnyafs question

No.

Starlink is only as good as Elon let's it be.

Yes, improvement, but it has the same weak points as your normal Internet

Starlink IS government internet.

No it's not... It's not a government entity. It's corporate internet.

Basically the same thing

if it is targeted then yes, have redundant connections

anon https://silent.link data esim is a solid option

if it is for the whole population, more difficult, starlink will sometimes still work unless elon is complicit in the action

in that case, the only real fallback is mesh, which is hard to scale

Hey nostr:nprofile1qqsqfjg4mth7uwp307nng3z2em3ep2pxnljczzezg8j7dhf58ha7ejgpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgqgcwaehxw309ac8yetdd96k6tnswf5k6ctv9ehx2aqpr9mhxue69uhhxetwv35hgtnwdaekvmrpwfjjucm0d54df670 take a look at Reticulum.Network

It's the only mesh that can scale

People of the free world, let’s mesh up

Heads on poles.

I'd say maybe StarLink and other satellite-based services, however I don't know how free and unbiased they could stay once a hypothetical world government forcibly took control of it.

NO not in "any country" during wartime.

What’s the context behind the question?

In nearly all situations government’s would not want to do this as it would disincentivize productivity and economic activity across the population - so while they may “gain” the ability to silence “dissent” during wartime - we must also consider what they would “lose” in doing so.

War is a powerful incentive to do crazy shit.

Sad to see

Iran shut off their Internet

whoa nuts

Mesh if you’re in a population-dense area, public access (libraries, etc), and things like Blockstream satellite or amateur radio if you’re desperate. But as others have said, if your government (or someone else’s (war?)) is turning off your internet you probably have bigger problems.

I’d just go be a mountain man if that happened to me

Oh yeah? How would you be able to get to "the mountains" if no one has GPS

checkmate

I already downloaded the maps from Google Maps to prepare for this scenario 😂

Okay but what about

"The mountains are calling and I must go"

That's my alarm system so I can get there before Google maps goes down

Not any REAL defense. Small scale? Yes. But large populations? No.

Forces me to touch grass so it’s all good!

The #1 priority of the state is to protect the state and the power it holds at all cost. The wellbeing of the populace is way down on the list. If shutting off the internet aligns with priority #1 it can and will happen if necessary.

Satellite connection with a foreign provider. Or store and forward networks a la FIDONet (or really, Nostr with relays that get more creative than TCP/IP...).

But yea, you do lose a lot of functionality even if you can save some.

Learn to enjoy playing board games with your family and neighbors

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