He took money from Israeli billionaires to spread propaganda
Thatβs like hitler never killed anyone cuz he might have never physically done it
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Thatβs like saying*
You lost me at Hitler, who ordered the deaths.
Charlie argued that Israel had the right to defend itself. Whether you agree with him is another thing. He also pushed back on the idea that Israel could not be criticized, and he hated that Israel was killing women and children in Gaza. There is such a thing as a nuanced position.
No nuance of how you support starving children to death en masse will make me care if you get killed for supporting starving children to death en masse
The nuance might impact like, how you should be killed, but the fact that you support starving kids to death is just not nuanced in itself
Show me a quote where he supported starving children, and I will condemn it.
Didn't you say he went along with Israeli framing where this is presented as "Israel's right to defend itself" while this was happening?
you made an assertion. support it.
I just tried while I awaited your reply, but Google wouldn't even give me any quotes where he suggested voting for Donald Trump
Did he somehow campaign for Donald Trump while telling people not to vote for him? Or like, without commenting on voting or something? I don't get it
Not some collated Google search. Post a direct video quote of Charlie saying it was OK to kill women and children either by blowing up buildings or starving them. That was your accusation. I'll even accept one where he says it was OK to raise Gaza. Support it with something other than inference.
This sort of accusation shit game that the left plays.
And keep in mind, I hate Israel, and I think Netenyahu allowed Hamas in on Oct 7 so he could hold onto power.
Look man, if he campaigned for Trump while saying "don't vote for Trump" and that was part of a general pattern of looking like a Nazi without actually advocating for doing anything to any starving children, then I was wrong about him.
I'm just pretty sure there are plenty of actual quotes from him that prove me right, even if Google didn't wanna show me one at first
I'm pretty sure with your line of thinking you would also be fine with genocide since there are millions who agree with Charlie on his positions. I don't see the difference between what you're accusing Charlie of and your own position.
Making exceptions for kids, and using guns instead of bombs or starvation, are pretty big differences in my position
again, post the soundbite. Otherwise you're just saying programming.
You refute that Charlie Kirk ever suggested to vote for Trump?
Why don't you make things more interesting with a wager. I'll bet you 100 sats he did
π I voted for Trump. it was either that or the dementia guy and his corrupt team of marxists. That wasn't what you were arguing. You said that Charlie wanted to starve children.
If you aren't allowed to vote for third parties or write in your own votes where you live, why live there? And why vote there at all?
I voted for Trump in "2016" when he wasn't genocidal.
Supporting Trump in "2020" was supporting killing and disabling kids with a deadly virus; not the kind of "free speech" I care if you get killed over.
Supporting "Trump 2024" was like in "2020," but now also walling in a city full of kids and starving many of them to death.
I will stay in this place as long as I think there's a fighting chance to stop authoritarianism. Nowhere else in the world is there a mass of people with enough guns and FU money to hold the evil at bay.
Israel is a sideshow. You can accuse people like Charlie of supporting genocide, which is truly what's happening there, but it's not on the mainstage if the 4th Turning at this point. Charlie challenged the Marxist authoritarian ideology, and that, my friend, is the fight that will matter in the end.
Marxist authoritarians aren't the problem
Nazis are
We might end up with an eco fascist world government to stop us from using crude oil and nuclear weapons to commit global suicide, that would be much better than what we have now or in the past
I have a personal belief in anarchy but it seems too late to try that as a productive solution for the problems we've created today
Nazis? Weird take.
Since this keeps coming up lately, I have an explanation ready to copy and paste of why I use this wording
Level 1 Nazi
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Examples: Charlie Kirk's support of Trump and Israel, maybe your posts defending him
Level 2 Nazi
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Examples: Charlie Kirk's support of Trump and Israel
Level 3 Nazi
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Examples: Charlie Kirk's support of Israel and the 21st century American uniparty
ok. Well, have fun fighting the "Nazis." π
I won't. It sucks. I hope you're not one of them
Don't really care if I am or not. I'm more interested in stopping those who would love to destroy anything Christian and then lock us into a authoritarian prison that looks like a globalist Soviet society.
Then you should be glad the Catholic Church seems quite non-Nazi and ready to be part of a non-nuclear-apocalypse future, so people like me have no desire to destroy everything Christian.
eh. There's a Christless-ness there as well. I doubt I will be looking towards any institution as we go forward.
Not suggesting that. I'm just saying, as a Christless commie myself, they're doing a good job ensuring real Marxists shouldn't want to "destroy everything Christian"
the destruction of the God idea is inherent in Marxism. I am therefore opposed to it. It also insists on the centralization of the financial system, so I am opposes to it. It has no interest in the family unit, so I am opposed to it.
My idea of communism doesn't do anything to your church or your family unit, it mainly just prices most people out of luxuries they should have the self control to avoid to begin with (like eating tons of meat and driving huge vehicles faster than necessary all the time)
why do you believe it's your right to make those decisions for others? this is "you'll own nothing and be happy" authoritarianism..
It's my simple right to self defense. I don't like my air being poisoned
then you need to personally, publicly campaign against it rather than asking the govt to do it for you.
Well that's why I'm always posting on nostr and never filing taxes
But ultimately I kinda expect someone else with an AI powered robot army to do more than I can
at least I know you're not serious.
I am serious, retard
You have picked a random time to start pretending I'm joking for no reason
ok, then you are a coward, trying to force something on other people and hoping they use violence to do it because you are too weak to do it yourself. You are not a serious person.
I am definitely a serious person. If I live long enough, I will build the robot army myself
Also, it's not hard at all to drive reasonable speeds, but you people are still vastly far too retarded for that
Given your violent vision to force us to do your will, you will, of course, be resisted. It will be to the bitter end, and it's a fight a lot of us will enjoy.
Because I'd make you eat less meat and drive reasonable speeds?
Thank gosh wars aren't usually won on delusion alone
yep. you don't get to make me do anything.
Because someone else will probably do it first, but like I said, if I somehow avoid being murdered first, it could end up being me
wouldn't wish that on you.
Many people would.
If I send unarmed quadcopters to crash into people's trucks and scratch the paint when they're driving too fast, people will want to strike me with predator drones.
Thank you for being more reasonable
π
And now perhaps you understand how this meme is bullshit 
nah. you want what the globalists want. so it's still the same.
"Globalists" as in get rid of national borders, yes
"Globalists" as in ship everything across oceans to help poison everyone, obviously not
Either way, how the fuck does blurting out the word "globalism" change the fact that you, not some shadowy overlord, want to kill me by poisoning my air and you threaten to escalate the violence further for anything people who want to survive (like me, not some shadowy overlords) do to defend ourselves?
So if he doesnβt care about people being killed why are people expected to care he got killed?