#asknostr Ok, I don't have a laptop, or a PC for that matter, but I'd like to buy one.

For those who don't know me, I have next to zero skills regarding the topic. I'm old, and an immigrant blue-collar in the construction sector, so you should have an idea already.

That being said, my understanding is that a Lenovo ThinkPad is the gold standard if you're a poor or cheap bastard who also wants Linux. I have the following options, and here I need your opinion, regarding these second-hand "gems". I'll go the copy/paste route to avoid any mistakes on my side.

Lenovo Thinkpad Edge Notebook i3 380 for €59,99. "Lenovo ThinkPad Edge notebook with charger. Sold without warranty due to age. --- i3 380 --- 6GB RAM --- 160GB HDD"

This one is in my budget.

The second Lenovo isn't from the ThinkPad family, but I put it here because €79,99 is still tolerable, so here it is. Lenovo Laptop, AMD A4 9125 2.30GHz -- 8GB RAM -- 512GB SSD -- Windows 10.

The last option is the Lenovo Thinkpad E580 Notebook i3 8130U: 2 cores / 4 threads 2.20GH (3.40GHz Turbo) -- 16GB RAM -- 250GB SSD -- 500GB HDD -- Windows 11, freshly reset and updates installed. This one is way out of my budget at €199,99 so it serves more of a comparison point.

They also have a QWERTZ configuration, which, for me will be a fresh hell, but beggars can't be choosers.

So, does it make any sense to buy the first one, or even the second?

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I'm not a big expert, but just a few thoughts. Third is better but second maybe ok. but if you want Linux try to find laptop without OS, because probably preinstalled windows eats some bucks. second option is ok but nowadays 8 gb ram is not enough, but - it very depends on which Linux you will end up installing. From my knowledge Linux Manjaro is very undemanding in terms of resources. maybe Arch linux. so do some research which Linux to install

Thank you!

I like Mac. Get an Apple 🍎

If I'm looking for €60 laptops, Apple might be out of the question. 🤷

what are you planning to do with it

that is the right question

I distrust Intel chips more than AMD chips, personally