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This birth of ₿itcoin debt is happening in real time whether you or I like it or not. I personally am looking forward to when I can post my ₿TC and borrow against it without having to sell. Maybe in a 100 years fiat will have been retired and these ways will not exist.

I fail to see any real advantage that Bitcoin debt provides.

if we're not fighting for a REAL Bitcoin Standard

and instead just excited we can get fiat loans for BTC

because we're early and NGU,

then its still fiat thinking.