So what would be an acceptable interest rate in your view? That wouldn’t be considered usury

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I think you start with a return to traditional lending models, and the natural interest rate will reappear.

1. Encourage lending for productive purposes instead of just on real estate

2. No loans that cannot follow you after bankruptcy

3. No debtor prisons

4. Remove the belief that repayment is virtuous

5. Hold banks accountable for loans they make

6. Let banks fail if they make bad loans

7. Hold executive boards responsible for targeted lending

8. Reenact anti-usury laws

9. Don’t have a money system that inflates perpetually

With these things in place, good loans will be repaid, and bad loans will now. Banks who act antisocially will suffer for it. Asset classes that people need (houses) will return to more accessible pricing.