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I big part of it is because Christianity talks about morality and so scoundrels filter themselves. If someone wants to be evil and has no opinion on whether the Abrahamic god exists then they will naturally choose to be atheist, or choose to join a pegan belief system without a large community of very principled members. Just because Christians are expected to at least justify themselves when they get together and agree they are fine with a bunch of evil shit.

And then you have good people who have no opinion on whether the Abrahamic god exists, but who want to associate themselves with the good connotations that come with being Christian, many of which will come up with some sort of rationalization to call themselves "Christian" even if their interpretation of Christianity or reasons for being Christian are very different from the average Christian's.

It seems to me that Nostr as a platform is designed in a very idealistic way. That's probably why it's so shitty. And as much as I hate to admit it, even though none of the shitty Bitcoin users on here care about or understand these ideals, Bitcoin itself is also designed in a very idealistic way. A large collection of people who are more idealistic than average are also more likely than average to be Christian.

Of course, there are exceptions to my profiling. Namely there are principled people who don't give a shit what people think about them and who believe there is no Abrahamic god. Or completely unprincipled Scoundrels who care more about looking good than the inconvencience of having to come up with a bunch of bullshit reasons for acting unprincipled. Praise the Lord.

I’m not gonna lie my man, I’m not really following your logic but appreciate your perspective.

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I can be more concise. Maybe that will help.

Both Nostr and Christianity draw in naive and vulnerable idealists. It's not surprising that a lot of the people drawn to Nostr would be drawn to Christianity too.

Does that help you to follow your logic? Can you be any more specific to help me explain my position better?

Taking Nostr out of this because ultimately it’s just a forum. I’d be curious to learn more about your understanding of what Christians believe. At the core of the Christianity is an understanding that mankind is sinful and need of a savior. Not necessarily the theology of an idealist.

We do believe that the world was created with intention by a designer (God) who intricately made the beautiful world we get to live in. Maybe that’s where you think Christians are naive and are idealist?

I don't believe that idealism or naivety are essential traits of Christianity. It's just that from interacting with Christians in person and online, I get the general vibe that the culture encourages thoughtfulness and frowns upon people who refuse to justify their treatment of others.

I have also noticed a huge variation among Christians regarding how they approach conversations involving the supernatural. Some Christians are very very careful with what they will claim and the position they defend, avoiding making concrete statements about exactly what God or heaven is like. And some Christians are completely unabashed in saying things like "oh yeah, God is literally a thinking feeling person who watches over people with his two eyes. Something bad happened to you? God was probably pissed at you for some reason, or maybe it would have been much worse if god hadn't literally reached down from heaven to interfere for the sake of preventing a worse inconvenience for you personally."

That's why I say that some impressionable idealists are only Christian because they see the culture of morality and just assume there's probably something correct within the Christian religion, and not because they find the metaphysics of creation particularly compelling. That's the general phenomenon thing that I see as naive.