To me this is like saying “tape measures are a scam when building a building”

sure you could just wing the measurements but when things start falling over and you don’t know why…

for me calorie counting is just a way to diagnose why i’m not losing weight that fast. A data driven approach is useful for a brain like mine. I like to see numbers, stats, health bars.

If i fast all day and eat 3000 calories in one meal then i still won’t lose weight.

Not to mention your maintenance calories changes with your weight… i don’t see how you can just wing it and expect progress.

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The point is that weight isn't the same as health, you can get stuck optimizing for a symptom that way. Body gains weight for good reasons too. It's the weigh in problem. If that's the limbo marker that's how low you gotta get.

right… so how is having no data on what your ingesting help diagnose problems ? seems like counting calories and macros explicitly helps you here