You're the one who brought up the motion of the sun, not me. I'm not sure how seeing the sun move proves your point in any way? Oh, that's right, because it doesn't.

The seasons have nothing do to with the shape of the earth, and again, they are not exclusive evidence of anything. Are you able to steel man the opposing position? Unlikely, since you clearly don't even understand what is being proposed on the other side.

If it's so stupid, this whole debate could be put to rest by strapping some cameras to a plane and continuously flying over Antarctica, yet no one has ever done this.

Fallacies on top of fallacies, that's all I ever see.

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Nope. Both you and that dork in the video seem to think that somebody needs to prove our planet is moving.

When you're in a car, how do you know if you're moving or not? Oh, yes, you observe changes in the relative positions of other objects. That tree that was in front of you is now behind you. Hmmmm. Maybe you're moving. Maybe the tree is moving. Astronomy is amazing. Funny how every astronomer since Copernicus is wrong about everything, and some random bozo on the internet is right about everything : - D

Why would I believe you and not Copernicus? Or any of the 1800 years of scientists before him who knew the earth was round? : - D

Nice continued use of fallacies. You do understand what logical fallacies are, right? A respected physicist is a bozo because his point don’t line up with your bias, even though it is the objective mainstream view. Your appeal to authority is to refer back to the alleged musing of people from thousands of years ago, when you have no objective and exclusive evidence to support your views.

The default position is the earth doesn’t move. So if you’re going to claim that it does move, then yes, you have to substantiate that claim.

The very simple fact is you can’t steel man my position on this because you have a very elementary understanding of both models, which is why you’re trying to use elementary arguments and fallacies to try and argue your beliefs.

You have spent zero time on the subject, using appeals to authority and consensus as your reasoning, “oh, eeeeveryone knows, like duhhhh”, and you’re clearly not interested in honestly engaging in the subject, so why are you wasting your and mine time here? If you cannot approach the topic honestly, there really is no point in you joining the discussion.

Don’t engage your mental faculties. Feel free to believe whatever you want. But don’t pretend like you have any evidence to support your position other than the indoctrinated beliefs that we all once held.