Look, if you want me to take the gloves off here, cars of any sort are a clown world scam and if you own one as opposed to pushing for public transportation infrastructure, you're complicit, sorry 'Murica. The Model Ts got the same MPG as your modern death traps. 35,000 Americans a year dead in auto accidents. They keep people poor, fat, and stressed. Research how public transportation infrastructure was literally ripped up across the US monopoly conglomerates and punished by laughable fines. I'm from LA, this is a sore subject. Fuck cars.
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Read this 20 years ago and still is on my all-time list:
https://www.amazon.com/Divorce-Your-Car-Ending-Automobile/dp/0865714088
Lmao wow that’s pretty delusional. In the US (and many other large countries) a substantial percentage of people need vehicles to get around rural areas. Most people don’t live in cities and public transportation is completely inadequate even in advanced stages.
Vehicles are a tool of empowerment and independence. They afford freedom and mobility cheaply and reliably for millions. There is absolutely no way I could do the work I do without ICE vehicles. I move materials and tools around freely and build homes in rural areas - public transportation will never be able to solve the problems I face period.
Living in cities is not an option for me. Can’t stand the type of people who congregate in cities, the pollution and squalor that accumulates in cities, the inflated cost of living, urban heating effects and the lack of access to natural landscapes. Rural folk need diesel trucks and we use them to do all the work to keep city people alive. EVs are woefully inadequate where diesel shines. You sound like a delusional commie with your “everyone should live in cities and use public’s transportation” sentiment. Reductive, delusional and insane.
Just bc some people die driving(mostly drunk driving btw) has absolutely no bearing on private motor transportation’s efficacy and ICE tech being superior to EV tech. Especially in work vehicles.
80% of the US population lives in cities. EIGHTY.
No one's saying commercial use of ICE engines isn't needed nor should you construe any of what I've said as anti-fossil fuel.
Everything I'm about to say is easily verified online. DYOR.
2023 average cost of vehicle ownership is about $900/month. Average take-home pay is $3600/month. You're saying that it's OK for Americans to spend 25% of their time working to simply pay for their vehicles. Sounds extremely empowering.
It's fantastic you want to live in a rural area. It has literally nothing to do with the matter at hand, nor do my preferences.
31% of auto accidents involve alcohol, also, I was off: Yearly deaths are hovering around 45,000 people per year. That's 5 people per hour. I'll let you play God and deem certain deaths OK and others not.
You make assertions without doing the work. do better, esp if you're gonna be swimming in Bitcoiner waters. I speak in numbers and math, not ignorant, egocentric opinions. Keep calling me delusional and I'll keep making you look ill-informed in the public square.
The population threshold the US Census Bureau uses for that 80% figure is 5,000 inhabitants. FIVE THOUSAND. 😂😂 instead of being a reductive google enjoyer maybe dig deeper and do a little better.
We’re explicitly talking about areas that can be adequately served by public transportation.
A more realistic statistic is that ≈59 million people live in the 100 largest American cities. So that leaves a couple hundred million adults who are firmly out of range of even well developed public transportation. Darn!
The numbers really don’t matter and if you look into how metropolitan areas are delineated you’ll see many rural communities get packaged with large cities more than an hours drive away, communities that are objectively rural. It’s bullshit if you dig deeper.
None of what you replied with even pertains to what the original contention. Which was EV inadequacies vs ICE vehicles. Internal combustion vehicles work better than EVs especially outside of metropolitan areas. EVs are slow to charge, their ranges are inferior to ICE vehicles, their batteries degrade much faster than ICE motors and EVs struggle in inclement weather. These are the facts as of right now.
The US (and many other places) NEED reliable personal transportation and work vehicles to function. Almost all real work vehicles are diesel. All the shit this country imports is shipped across oceans in diesel ships and unloaded into diesel semi-trucks. ALL excavators, bull dozers and dump trucks are diesel. Trains, diesel. Farm equipment, ICE. Most private vehicles still are ICE too. There is a reason why - they work much better and are more cost effective.
If you took away the motor vehicle (as you suggested) the entire global economy would collapse in matter of days. It’s such an absurd and delusional suggestion I wasn’t sure if you were kidding at first.
Internal combustion has been a phenomenon force multiplier for humans and made us orders of magnitude more productive since its invention. The idea of ridding ourselves of these amazing tools is regressive and completely delusional. All you city kitties would be starving in squalid metropolitan cesspools if it wasn’t for the internal combustion engine and the rural folk who use them to do the actual work to feed and house the world - wake the fuck up.
Your original assertion was that EVs are a clown world scam, you dumb fuck. Moore's Law doesn't care about your ignorant, inbred country ass takes on technological advances. Lay off that "high end cannabis" (talk about being an entitled fuck) and educate yourself on where this is going. The Price of Tomorrow by Booth would be a good start. Fuck off.
Hahahaha you’re so hurt. Enjoy that public transport passenger princess life 😂😂😂😂💅 Bitch made commie
Bro I'm a Bitcoin educator in South America who could teach you a thing or two about Austrian economics if you'd like, not some country bumpkin catering to the wealthy building fiat houses. Get fucked.
Fuck cars though. Divorce them 😂 you’re a certified clown.