X hypothetical pain, Y hypothetical utility, Z hypothetical difficulty in enforcing a rule about it
In this case maybe we could say x is huge, y is small, and z is high on an absolute scale, but low compared 59 x
Discussion
The only reason people break rules, is that rules exist. There can only be principles, and they can only be adhered to voluntarely by each individual. And there is space for everybody, even for those with different values.
If you trust me on other things, you should trust me on having a gun if I say I want it. If not, you should not trust me on other things either. And if we have no mutual trust, we cannot live "together". No rules will fix this.
I dunno, going back to the missile comment, I would trust you to have a gun, but I’m much less likely to trust you to carry a big red button. And it’s not even mostly about your potentially pressing the button, it’s the whole line of failure points between the button and the missile silo.
Somewhere in between gun and missile silo there’s a line that I think I’d probably want to enforce.
But I agree. You having a gun is a very low bar for trust. People who use guns or other means to take from others their health, property should be dealt with the right way - but yeah I don’t have a problem with the response being called a principle.
Not sure what you mean by “the only reason people break rules is because they exist”. I would guess that people will keep doing cocaine in places that legalize it, and they will also keep stealing cars post legalization. Maybe there’s an interpretation of the statement as a truism that I understand: rules that don’t exist definitionally aren’t “broken”?
Yeah, I exagerate about missiles, of course. But still I do not believe rules could control it. Lack of incentives and lack of resources should ensure that unneeded dangerous and malicious stuff is never built. That is exactly what bitcoin will do. Since finding and stealing bitcoin is super difficult, next to impossible if properly guarded - no incentive to rob. And without inflation - no resources. No rules and laws and no enforcement needed.
Cocaine and drugs - without general desperation there are very few people who want to harm themselves, or incapable of evaluating risks that they can take in search for adventure. You cannot just lift all rules on desperate people in a blink of an eye -true. They will kill each other and themselves. So remove inflation, usury, and non-individual property rights, and very soon you will be able to lift drug control laws, too.
In where I live, there are no car thefts whatsoever. We are not much scrupulous in even locking them. It would be super easy to grab a random car, enjoy it for an hour for free, and drop it anywhere. No chance of even being cought. And yet, noone does it. Life is fair enough. No desperation - no incentive to offend others.
Sounds awesome. Mind sharing some local violent and non-violent crime rates? Is it a small town where everyone knows everyone?
I hope and tend to believe that with the right societal stories, everyone can live that way.
I wouldn't know where to look for those crime rates, I tell what I experience myself. But you are welcome to research (as long as you rely on local, and definitely ignore american sources). It is entire countries, not villages: all of Estonia, Lithuania, probably Latvia, most places in Poland, possibly Czechia, Hungary, less touristy islands of Spain, Greece, and probably most of the untouristy countryside of western Europe. Also plenty of similar places in middle and far east.
It hasn't always been like that. In recent history in eastern Europe things have been improving, while it seems deteriorating in most places in the western. Pretty much stable in Asia.
I only really looked into Estonia. Love those low rates. Makes me feel optimistic that people can be cool, and that maybe someday we could actually live without police or laws.
N.b. the low crime situation in those places in Europe I do not attribute to any rightiousness of the governments. I am just saying that no crime without police is not a utopia, but the one we currently have is not sustainable, yet, unfortunatelly.
Those European governments, maybe they do the best possible under the circumstances, but they are anyway vasals of the slaveholders. If people were allowed to build and keep what they have built - that would be the right solution. The reality is that people mostly work useless jobs, do not build anything, but still get all the product they need from the abused parts of the world - Asia, Africa, Latin America.
We need bitcoin.
I mean that a rule is not a solution to anything. It can be a temporary measure to mitigate a bigger problem that you yourself had caused. But every rule has a side effect. So if you do not remove the underlying problem, every rule that you impose creates more problems, that become underlying problems for other rules. And so the snowball keeps rolling until it is an avalanche.
The same thing with medicine. If you do things right, you will never have high temperature, and will never have to use ibuprofenum, and it will never hurt your liver. But if you already are running high temperature, you might still want to use the drug, but then seek for ways to avoid getting into that situation ever again. I know our "education" tells us that health problems are unavoidable. That is a lie.