From his view, there are a lot of cons to relays - you need more people to run relays to be able to host more people - and we see this as even a challenge now as it is a recurring cost without the ability to recoup as growth takes time. He also mentioned that the data instability can be an annoying factor and affects credibility of the system. He believes all this will be a hindrance. I think its a plus point and it just needs time. He explained way better and a lot more than that and I can't recall everything right now, I'm sorry