I don't perceive it like that. I was doing it before there was value4value.

There's value and reward in doing what you love. It enables you to have conversations with people. There is a lot of non monetary value.

I just changed that I want to make this a bit different for producers as a listener.

I would do my stuff even without any v4v tooling.

But we have this tech. Let's use it.

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OK, I got it!