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The EEC was enough for free trade agreements. And you don't have to be in the EU to participate in the Schengen treaty/zone (for visa-free travel). Iceland, Norway, Liechtenstein, and Switzerland are not in the EU, but part of Schengen, while Cyprus and Ireland are EU countries, but not in Schengen.

The fact that people conflate the EU with these things is simply that this has been the narrative that was pushed. Also, people who were e.g. against the EUR at the time were vilified as right-wing extremists, same as anyone who criticizes the EU today.

Sjors Provoost 1y ago

None of these countries have voting rights or veto power. They get access to free trade, but it's on the EU's terms.

As for the EUR, it's better than 95% of the currencies it replaced. It still sucks because it's fiat of course.

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Sjors Provoost 1y ago

I do agree that free trade and political union are two different things. As is freedom of movement. There are potential benefits when you combine them, but also trade-offs.

I don't think we'll ever have all three between the EU and US. Probably never even free trade (compared to how free domestic trade is).