I like Saifedean - I'm not a bitcoiner without hearing him on a CarnivoreMD (Paul Saladino) podcast back in 2021.

But he just comes across as rigidly obstinate in this discussion with Saylor. I like Saylor's position on trying to make sound money transitions as peaceful as possible, ability to earn "risk free yield" on #bitcoin by minimizing risk through selection of regulated counter-parties, etc. And putting that bitcoin up as collateral, to earn that yield, may then allow that regulated bank to loan (without printing currency out of thin air) to an entrepreneur trying to change the world.