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I love the idea of freedom tech. But why don't people who advocate for it also advocate for removing government involvement in spectrum allocation and telecom licensing and regulation?

Surely, a 'free' internet wouldn't involve getting permission from a bunch of bureaucrats to access. (Free as in freedom, not free beer.)

Seems to me that the most critical layers of the internet stack all over the world is run by various crony-bureaucrat alliances, rather than sound free market principles like property rights, contractual exchanges and homesteading.

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Stacking Functions 5mo ago

Really good point. I could easily see ISP's starting to de-internet people like banks have de-banked wrongspeakers. Govt always uses companies to do their unconstitutional dirty work.

Public/private partnerships should be a red flag for all of us

sachin 5mo ago

Yeah, pub-priv parterships are just cronyism with a garb of 'intellectual nuance and balance'.

Fully private internet with no state involvement is the way.

Internet bans are way too common around the world.

A legal system with strong and well-defined property rights is necessary for a truly free internet (and a truly free society)

Without it, we're heading towards an Orwellian world of chaotic tyranny.

MAHDOOD 5mo ago

Freedom tech can be implemented at a small scale and it’s difficult to stop all of it. The large internet providers and phone companies are easier to target.

sachin 5mo ago

That's true

But I'm talking about people being able to set up ISP's and provide internet connection without relying on the state to coordinate with other existing ISP's

MAHDOOD 5mo ago

Pretty sure it’s illegal

sachin 5mo ago

Yep, and it's pretty diabolical that it's illegal

sachin 5mo ago

Like internet bans are always enforced at the ISP level because failure to comply will likely get their licenses revoked

Spectrum is usually leased rather than owned so there's no property right based ownership, meaning allocated spectrum can be taken away without much difficulty

If we can't be censorship resistant at this level, then nothing on top of it is truly censorship-resistant

MAHDOOD 5mo ago

Censorship resistant at that level would mean we’ve successfully removed the government from control of the internet

sachin 5mo ago

💯

One can dream