If it matterss when you buy it, you've just made the case of how shit bch is as money. None of the things you mention have anything to do with a good money.

Who said money should have no fees? Why does everything have to happen on L0? You have a rudementary understanding of money my friend. If you stay with this BCH thing, it will not bode well for you.

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it is not money

learn about it

why money was created

what money is

no adoption with high fees

I know why money is emergent and I know what it is too. Can you explain your position so I can tell you where we disagree on the definitions?

satoshi designed bitcoin as money over the internet with very low fees

read his communication. i did. i read all emails of satoshi.

"btc has nothing to do with satoshi"

adam block from blockstream testified in court under oath recently

it was crippled as money to force users into different custodial solutions like lightning and liquid

Brother. Your argument for what money is is your own subjective understanding of what one person said about money over his time involved with Bitcoin. That's not what money is. Try again to come up with an actual definition.

in ancient times people bartered cow halves vs craftsmanship to build a ship. it became too inconvenient because you need to own exactly what your trading opponent wants. that is why money was created. it started with promissory notes which were covered by gold. finallly the banking system was created. all moneys failed when the notes or the banks went out of reserves.

today many different moneys exist. money gets adopted for convenience and for low fees.

people feel comfortable even in a fiat ponzi scheme when they can conveniently pay with their cards and even get 3% refunded of their purchasing price. settlement is 6 months. they can return or dispute anything. it does not matter to them that the usd or eur ponzi is losing value every month because they have their wealth invested in shares and real estate and both always makes up for the loss.

how do you motivate these people to switch to using btc with super high fees and immediate settlement? they laugh at you when you tell them it is money.

you can't.

even in el salvador where it is legal tender no one uses btc as money. i was there several times.

that is why you run ito a wall when you try to convince people.

if btc was money it would be mass adopted immediately

We need to have a nostr nest to debate. You have a bunch of points that go all over the place and don't relate to anything with anecdotes mixed in everywhere. I can pick part ever sentence on a text response in a meaningful way. Set up the nest or corny chat and I'll have this debate.

ok. let's do it

I am mostly available after 8 pm ish (est) every day that's the kids bedtime at least. But I'll make provisions to be there.

what time zone?

Est

you are one hour ahead of me.

who will set it up?

can you send me a link?

Would you like to do cornychat or nostr nests? I don't have a bunch of experience with either. What time is 9pm someday good for you 8pm your time?

yes the time works. i have done chats on nests before. i can set it up at 9pm your time and send the link here for others to join. what day do you prefer?

Any day I suppose. I'll make arrangements that day.

ok