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the idea that men have ever wanted women is Feminist gaslighting

men wanted sex or family - never women

Greeks were into sex ... not necessarily with women

Kings were into making babies - they would ditch their wives to the curb if she couldn't produce any

men were always after power 1st, offspring 2nd and sex 3rd

only total losers ( the equivalent of today's incels ) ever cared about women

"womanizing" was always considered to be something similar to alcoholism or gambling. it was always seen as PATHETIC AND WEAK.

the irony is that PUAs are actually doing the bidding of Feminists by telling men that you are not a real man unless you dedicate your life to chasing pussy

an actual real man has family and lots of children but doesn't give a fuck about his wife or his children - only protecting them to safeguard his own honor.

a PUA is the opposite of a man because a real man never approaches women. to approach a woman suggests that you need her which makes you mama's boy.

women need men. men don't need women. a real man has women at his feet at all times begging to suck his balls and never has to approach anybody ever.

i'm a middle aged, out of shape NEET and even i have women at my feet. imagine if i was young, fit, rich and famous ?

stupid FEDI incels think i sexually assault little Asian girls in my pool. their minds cannot fathom that it is actually the little Asian girls at my swimming pool that are assaulting me !

yet our society is so retarded we don't even have a word to describe a middle aged man being a victim of sexual harassment by tiny Asian girls at the swimming pool who some times blatantly start feeling me up and at other times TRY TO JUMP ME !

and i just do my best to pretend that i don't like it.

i used to think it's sad that Incels are so dumb they call me "pedo" because it's the only word they know ...

but it's not the incels. it's the entire society that is dumb to the point that language doesn't even exist to describe somebody as awesome as me because we are gaslit into seeing the world for the opposite of what it actually is.

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🥚 6mo ago

I'm not a historian, so I might be way off, but I imagine dowries might've had something to do with this? "Please, marry and support my daughter in the future. Here's a bunch of money now for the trouble."

Dissident Sound 6mo ago

haha EXACTLY !

and in China today the parents simply test for the gender of the fetus and abort it if it's a girl.

Prince Aleph 6mo ago

I was thinking about this after the "men are lame" tweet you posted here.

Women correctly identify nice guys who approach them as "needing a mommy" and that this is pathetic but...

The problem with game and PUAs is that they are advising you to become an unpaid entertainer for women.

Well, I can be quite entertaining at times, if I'm in the mood - the question is why do women feel entitled to this?

They like "bad boys" (losers) because they are the ones who fit the bill of entertaining/fun and also willing to spend endless hours with women because they have nothing else going on in their lives.

Of course it's no better to learn only money and business and so on, and then wind up as a beta simp as so many men today do.

If you stand out from the crowd you attract attention from women. You literally have to do almost nothing. And that includes, as you've said, underage girls hitting on you if you happen to come into their sphere. And I'm not young or rich either, though I'm fit compared with most men my age. I only can imagine what would have happened if I had not wasted my youth...

Dissident Sound 6mo ago

yes and no

PUAs do essentially want you to be entertainers for women but that is not what women like and it is not what being a bad boy is ...

you have to think back to chimps and other pack animals. the males form a hierarchy by struggling for power. the chimps that win have their testicles get larger and the chimps that lose have their testicles get smaller. why ? because the winners get all the pussy and the losers get none. the winners also develop ways to signal their position which can be anything from facial expressions and posture to changes in skin color.

female chimps simply read the signs of a male's position in the pack and put out for the ones who are near the top and don't put out for the ones near the bottom.

because if a female is impregnated by a beta ( low ranking male ) an alpha may simply kill her offspring and impregnate her with his own instead. a huge waste for the female.

so females are programmed to avoid putting out to low ranking males at all costs, while putting out immediately to any male ranked high enough ( alpha enough ).

this is why humans have fancy hats for kings and popes and so on - we mimic chimp hierarchy.

a real bad boy is somebody who displays characteristics of being alpha. a real alpha doesn't have to work - he simply takes from betas. he also doesn't have to chase women - they come to him. a real alpha simply displays that he is alpha and everything comes to him.

meanwhile a beta is always working, always struggling, and never gets anything and what he does get is taken from him. if you display characteristics of a beta you can forget about pussy.

as for women spending time with fuckboys who do nothing but entertain them it is two-fold.

1 - they have no choice. they have to party with the party types because well, those are the only ones at parties.

2 - party type males are effectively displaying alpha characteristics by not worrying about anything and just enjoying themselves as real alphas would. the idea is you already won, now you just celebrate.

but you cannot be seen to be chasing women, or trying to entertain them. you are not at a party for the hoes - you are there to celebrate your own awesomeness. you are entertaining YOURSELF. the hoes are there for you, not the other way. that's the mindset.

basically just show up to some place with hot girls, be really well dressed with a bunch of friends and keep congratulating each other on how awesome you. if your acting is good the dumb hoes will want to hang with these super cool dudes who are so awesome and having so much fun.

Prince Aleph 5mo ago

Well I see what you are saying, it's quite primitive and this is the instinct driving it in women, but my point was that in many cases bad boys are quite low status in reality. There are exceptions of course. We know of some very prominent womanizers, but that's not generally who the PUAs are talking about.

Dissident Sound 5mo ago

in this world in general appearances usually count for more than substance.

PUAs are imitation high value / status / rank men.

but if you look at an actually high value man like Trump or Elon they are probably even more fake than the average PUA ...

makes me wonder if a woman would even be able to tell you're a high value man if you had a private jet and a private island but no game ... my guess not because women are just that dumb

and the average man is so dumb he can't tell a girl is hot if she doesn't have make up on. i am always amazed when PUAs post images of girls with and without make up and the other retarded PUAs are all like " this should be illegal " but to me there is absolutely no difference in the pictures. my eye sees through the make up, but theirs doesn't.

Game is make up for men. the average girl won't see through it until it's too late. Of course this may change as women get older, but i am not interested in older women.