True enough, but IDK if I'd characterise the relationship as "run by Intelligence". Intelligence is more like an interface; between the collusive elite networks and the bureaucracy - between those who decide and those who plan.
I had an army buddy who moved to ASIS, our cringey excuse for a foreign Intelligence service. He was very low level, of course, but his work was mostly comparable to an investigative journalist's, with a bit of social research and a bit of lobbying. The aim was to avoid surprises for our bureaucratic planners, and to facilitate covert contacts between our elites and foreign elites.
I think the Epstein-level and above stuff is often, or even mostly, above Intelligence's paygrade, except so far as membership overlaps with that of elite cliques. Elite cliques were doing these games long before Intelligence bureaucrats were invented. Louis the Pious didn't grant the Jewish community tax exemptions out of the goodness of his heart...
That's a fair point except what I'm saying is that the upper echelons of intel substantially overlap with the elite networks. For example, we can see how George H.W. Bush was an example of this - wealthy oil dynasty, politician and former director of the CIA. And all the presidents since then have had pretty spooky backgrounds, the more you look into it; Obama and the Clintons for sure, and Trump not excepted. The broader intelligence community goes all the way down to journalists who dox and harass normies, but that's not who I was talking about.
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