Could be a scam? Best not to answer phone calls. Call the number you know instead

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If you need permission to move the money it is jot your money

Bingo. Which is a fact that takes quite some time to figure out given all the conditioning!

It wasn’t a scam. Number was the usual and email address from the real place

I did almost get tripped up by a copy of a proton mail email recently. Thankfully checked the address, whcih was some random person, but the email was so similar to what they would send. Phishing 101!