So I listed to the Mike Brock episode on Peter McCormack. There's a lot there that was just plain wrong. That said, I completely understand his need to step away from libertarianism, I might be there as well. I don't arrive there the same way he did, or the way the

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post-libertarians did (it's hilarious he calls himself a post-libertarian), I'm kind of stuck in this uneasy consequentialist death-spiral. Like him, this really bothers me.