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Liberty Farmer 9mo ago

Tell you what. I'll change my original note:

I am very skeptical of DOGE's savings claims. The reason I am skeptical to them being as high being as high as their website claims to be saving money from a local federal office that is near me is not actually closing for 1.5-2 years due to a costly lease termination requirement. The staff will however move to a close by office. So I suppose there will be some electricity and internet savings.

Because of this local claim, while possible, I find it hard to believe this is the only listed savings on the DOGE website that isn't completely accurate.

Better? 😉

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Dan 9mo ago

You don't think keeping an office vacant for 2 years could save 60k?

Liberty Farmer 9mo ago

Of course not. It may save $200 per month. That's likely high.

Dan 9mo ago

Something tells me you've never leased office space... Easily 1k-5k of operational costs for even a small space that would be largely avoidable if held vacant. *Especially* for something like a public office. Hell just the insurance savings could be over $200 a month

Liberty Farmer 9mo ago

I own a 9 unit commercial complex, my own 5k sqft building, and run own a biz condo in a complex. Lol, but ok.

Dan 9mo ago

Where the hell is this where you think $200 a month is probable?! (Rhetorical not asking you to dox)

Dan 9mo ago

Something tells me you run a much tighter ship than the federal government... They are absolutely saving more than $200 a month by closing an office... 2.5k seems completely reasonable and that's just if the only saving are from reduction of operational expense.

But I guess we'll never know. I completely understand why you can't share it, but wish you could. Super curious now

Liberty Farmer 9mo ago

Yeah, sorry.

But I'll add, I HOPE you see the correct one. I want them to save hundreds of billions.

Dan 9mo ago

Yup, super grateful there are people willing to try. Especially considering the personal cost. I hope they slash as much as possible.

Liberty Farmer 9mo ago

The building will be used for storage. Employees will still come and go. Insurance savings will be minimal, but some.

Trash is forced fixed cost as is water/sewer in the complex.

Electricity will be cut down to minimal cost, however they didn't have high use previously as their is a landlord credit given with the lease. Some savings here.

For sure the internet bill is gone.

I am completely ballparking as I do not have access to their insurance, full electric, or internet cost.

If I am wrong, ok.

Gotta go. Peace.