So the initial injury was very bad pain, then after the wound healed, it was only painful after activity like running, hiking, tennis, snowboarding or something with a lot of knee bending. But it basically acted like a hangover for the knee... It has certainly limited my life these past few years but when the doc says there's nothing to operate on, it's tough to argue. I found a different doc and he did the surgery right away.

Skydiving a massive rabbit hole and it can suck people in... I've seen people quit great careers to go Skydive full time.