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Naturally we are all biased, and appreciate and agree with you on being biased by others. Is your Our World In Data (original post) coming from meter reads in China?

mike 6mo ago

If you're discussing the source of power and not the amount of power, then meter readings are the wrong metric.

If you want to know what is generating the power you can use government statistics, but just as the west is biased against the east, so the east has its own positive bias.

I can't tell you anything, but I know I don't know.

Because I know I don't know, I know that people with less experience of China know less, which means they definitely don't know.

If you're interested in understanding my bias and my dissapointment with the western portrayal of it, I wrote an article here:

https://habla.news/u/mhardcastle@nostrplebs.com/1738253222927

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modulo 6mo ago

Thanks I’ll have a read, but I was referring to your original post in terms of amount of TWh generated *and* the breakdown of the sources of the electricity generated was predominantly coal per the graph, so if you want original sources of how much and from what, it’s difficult to be more exact than the meter reads.

Forming knowledge is a dubious endeavour, as even direct observation can be biased, but we do our best.

After I read your based biased article on bias I’ll respond again with my own bias; looking forward to it.👍🏻

modulo 6mo ago

I just read your article and thank you for sharing. I believe we will have much to talk about should we ever meet, particularly with your family’s evolution over the past 50 years. If I ever have time to watch the linked videos in your article I’ll come back to them.

One thing to get out of the way is my comments were not implying China is “evil” or “bad”. It’s a country, a government, a national identity, many other things, and that they use a lot of electricity, good on China. Painting an entire group of people as ‘evil’ is a pretty big paintbrush, and begs for trouble.

As for bias and sourcing data, my comment still stands: unless you source the actual data yourself, you rely on intermediary interpretation and bias, forcing you to trust or stay silent. Even meter reading requires testing meters or trusting that they read accurately.

“I know that I know nothing,” but to acknowledge this and still remain silent for all one’s life is the bigger loss for humankind.

mike 6mo ago

I look forward to meeting you too 🫂