Thank you for your work to orange pill the monero maxis, they really are team Bitcoin and would be great additions in Bitcoin circles. Monero maxis are the only shitcoiners I really respect... but they're still shitcoiners

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How does any of this lead to Bitcoin if Monero gets LN capability post FCMP++ upgrade?

If at all, I want a stateless network on top of a private store of wealth.

by the time you guys get lightning working on monero, who knows how much farther ahead we'll be by then? You bank on playing catch up but it's a losing strategy

Maybe. Maybe not. I use LN today. I use Monero.

The thing is Monero Bros are far more open to use the right tools for the job than Bitcoin maxis.

If Bitcoin doesn't get banned by the state and stays spendable in regulated white markets with LN is perfect for me. Bitcoin onchain or LN is just one trade away from my Monero stack.

IMHO, Monero lacks some key features that make it a viable long term Store of Value, at least in comparison to Bitcoin. Lack of widespread acceptance, decentration, and frequent hard forks introduce significant risks to its SoV status, specifically when it comes to geopolitical risks and long term nation state adoption. Arguably even Bitcoin has risks of developer corruption or capture, so to me, Monero is at even greater risk here.

>arguably even bitcoin has risks of developer corruption or capture

One of few to admit this, now can you admit that it's ALREADY happened?

Maybe. Hard to say for sure though.