Nostr Web Client

Not really. The reason they are challenging to block on free relays is they can create infinite pubkeys. On nostr.wine each one they create is 18,888 sats. What good is that if everyone mutes you after day 1 of spamming?

Filter.nostr.wine addressed this with our Purgatory data pipeline (quite successfully) since it reads from free relays and does not have the same advantage as nostr.wine.

Laeserin 9mo ago

Yeah, but I'm thinking of bots like nostr:npub1kr7awgum9cye8umu9s3smcwj0n3vl87pgt2r62egunmc5phsll2q25jfaf

Humans probably can't tell that's a bot or some bot/human mix, but it's already collected over 6k sats and has lots of high WoT followers.

I see more and more stuff like that.

And then I get scammers who seem totally normal in the feeds and then slide into DMs. Now that DMs are increasingly wrapped and stuff, a relay operator will struggle to pick up on suspicious behavior.

I'm wondering how to solve for that, myself, as I also have a paid relay.

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₿oniz23⚡️🏴‍☠️🇮🇹 9mo ago

Am I a bot? But you are paranoid 😂😂

Mazin 9mo ago

There will always be accounts that blur lines of automation/real. It’s up to users to decide if they value that content not me. Aggressive repetitive spam is what concerns me.

DM spam is harder to “see” but easy to address as an operator. You could rate limit DMs for new sign ups and only slowly increase those limits as time passes without reports.

Laeserin 9mo ago

Yeah. I worry that it's bad for our business model, but I guess Buyer Beware.

I'm amazed at how few people notice that obvious automation.

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 9mo ago

most people can't tell when text is written by AI

mostly because most people are illiterate, thanks to the Department of Education in every country, we are old farts from the days when education used to mean something

Laeserin 9mo ago

I think it's more a lack of pattern recognition.

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 9mo ago

you gotta have memories of patterns to recognise them tho