I meant privacy, yes. I totally forgot about Umbrel, and hearing so many great things about Start9
By private do you mean personal or privacy?
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I haven't used Start9 but hear a lot of good things about it too. Not sure how they compare on privacy.
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Well, using either Umbrel or Start9 will be a privacy gain simply from the fact that anything you are using the self-hosted services on your own server for is not being stored with the likes of Google, Amazon, Apple, or the rest of the tech giants that become nothing more than honeypots.
Exactly how private they are depends on how you are connecting to them remotely. Start9 is Tor access only when connecting remotely, which can be very private, but is also pretty slow and unreliable at times. We've been promised more options, and the ability to specify which services can be accessed by each option, which will be a MASSIVE win. But then... I've personally been waiting for that update for a year and a half and still no ETA...
Umbrel, on the other hand, is Tor only for remote access by default, but you can set up access to services via Tailscale for both fast and private remote connection to your home server. You can also use port-forwarding on your router and Nginx Proxy Manager to enable remote access via clearnet, but then you are throwing privacy out the window.
Also bear in mind that while accessing your services through Tor is very private, your services themselves don't use Tor to access the broader internet. So, if you install Invidious to watch ad-free YouTube, it's not accessing it over Tor. Same thing for downloading torrents if you install qbittorrent, anything you download is visible to your ISP, as there isn't a VPN client available for either Umbrel or Start9. The Wireguard app available in the Umbrel app store is for you to host your own VPN, so that your other devices would appear to be using your home internet, even when away from home. Cool idea, and great for not having your traffic monitored by a public wifi, but not exactly what most are looking for, since your home IP address would be associated with everything you do and your home ISP would still see everything.
That said, you can always install a VPN on your home router.