That right there is why there is no talk about it - there is no reasoning with anyone on one side or the other.
War is ugly - always funded with printed money.
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The war is that of Russia against Ukraine or rather against the whole NATO! Between 2 armies! The one in Palestine is called GENOCIDE or if you prefer ETHNIC CLEANSING. They are two different things
Do u think the Ukraine war, which started in 2014 with genocide against Russians, is Russia’s fault? But goes way back to the 90s. Read book, “Provoked” -
And do u think Israel being bombed for 20+ years from tunnels but under residential areas has anything to do with the problem for the Palestinians? Just recently 4 rockets were launched from Gaza from residential areas - to which Israel responds decisively - hitting the launch sites. Whose fault are the civilian casualties? Are u fine with Hamas sending rockets to Israel for 20+ years? Do u think they should just allow the killing?
See - there r two sides to every conflict. Can u understand both sides?
I know the war in Donbass well! The 2014 coup d'état in Kiev commanded by Viktoria Nuland allowed the Ukrainian Nazis to rise to the government and they began to massacre Russians in the Donbass. So the invasion of Russia in 2022 was necessary also because NATO was getting closer and closer to its borders. So I understand Putin and Russia but not the Ukrainians who sacrificed themselves like cannon fodder for a NATO proxy war against Russia. Palestine's discourse is very complex. I think it is a country attacked since 1948 by one of the most criminal states in the history of humanity, which is Israel, which is committing genocide. So I understand the Palestinian side, I also understand Hamas and I also understand the religious Ionism that governs Israel that wants to exterminate Palestinian Arabs to form the great Israel just as written in the sacred books! I think I understood everything
I'm not sure about the Nazi thing. Honest question: Are we sure that's not propaganda?
If you read the book, "Provoked" you see Ukraine has been a tinderbox since after WW2. Read "One Nation Under Blackmail" by Whitney Webb for a very, very deep dive, 1000 pages, if history, with 1000s of references, of the corruption passed on from generation to generation.
The West has done great harm in Ukraine - which is the cause of most of the problems today. The Russiaphobia in the West, what is that all about? Who started it? Why?
I struggle with the Palestinian issue. $100 of millions spent building tunnels by Hamas so they can launch rockets from residential areas. Then when Israel bombs the launch site and kills civilians the press is all over it - genocide.
Israel did not chose their land - they were forced there.
The Muslims and Christians have been at war for over 1000 years. The multi-volume series, "The Story of Civilization" is outstanding. Really puts in perspective how long this war has been going on.
It's clear Israel tried to get along with Palestinians over the last 20 years. Trying to live together. Clearly that did not work - as it has not worked for 100s of years.
So we are at a point someone will need to win, and someone will need to lose I guess. I really don't know.
To your origional point about talking this issue - I think we stay out of it (the West) and just let it play out. The West has been trying to Nation Build for decades and guess what - it has not worked after spending 10's of trillions of dollars.
As hard as it is to watch people kill each other, I don't believe stepping into the middle of the war will fix the war.
This makes sense to me. I don’t see why we HAVE to be involved especially in the Middle East.