They aren’t just ideas. That drifts into understanding them as pure, which leads to ideology, which was invented by Plato.

I have nothing against ideas creating value and wealth as long as the wealth isn’t captured by bureaucrats pretending to be capitalists. A system of individuals participating in power, necessitates power structures and systems that will have a hard time being captured and concentrated.

Yes, the Greek elites were famously against democracy. Especially Plato:

“By simply reading The Republic (from Book II on, that is), we find the original model of the corporatist utopia that is being pressed upon us today. In the Middle Ages we find Plato’s philosopher-king being mixed into Christianity to produce the absolute monarch. We find that same philosopher-king elitism in the thinkers of the current neo-conservative movement. As Vlastos points out, the Socratic “say what you believe” turns into the Platonic “purely instrumentalist conception of justice.” We can understand through the Platonic past the uncomfortable silence of our elites today and their Hobbesian taste for law, not as justice, but as contract and fear. We can see and know that the Platonists are in power.”

-Sheldon Wolin

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