Honestly it's probably not even worth trying to orange pill people like that. They're just not gonna care enough to take custody of their wealth, so by extension they'll never "get" Bitcoin.
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Yeah, I actually surrounded by families and friends who still think BTC is a scam yet say "Alhamdulillah" for every loans they've taken, even the loans are burdening them ever deeper. And the words of complaining to pay the instalments, they never see the irony in that 😔