You can listen to the entire #AnotherFuckingBitcoinPodcast episode on fountain, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcasts:

https://youtu.be/sHFDImRp7Us

https://fountain.fm/episode/ElcTgRAbFh7jE6Sgmv6L

https://rss.com/podcasts/bitcoinpodcast/1053330/