I mean, yeah, but not egregious fees to establish. I’m saying more of like an unchained loan or ledn, but not mid-teens interest rates and no liquidation risk. Where the lender is comfortable with riding the volatility of the underlying collateral

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I’m pretty sure unchained and ledn have liquidation points. Basically any loan does except mortgages

That’s all true. My question is, which company is going to break the mold & offer a better loan product that doesn’t have the liquidation risk for the borrower?

Yea idk that would be pretty darn cool, I think we’re a long way from that though

We’ll see..if none pop up during the first half of 2025, I might have to pioneer it

Isn't gap insurance what makes that possible for home and auto loans?

Gap insurance covers negative equity in the collateral in the event of damage to the collateral. Bitcoin as a commodity is different collateral than these types of loan products. I guess you could have insurance against the collateral being lost/stolen, but it would likely be unnecessary with multiparty custody via escrow contract

Got it. I don't know the solution to #2. For #1, Lava apparently offers loans against self custody BTC at a reasonable rate. If someone is ok with custodial, might as well also consider just holding some BTC ETF's and borrowing against that from a large brokerage house- their rates can range from 6%-13%.

Yeah, I would never justify owning the ETFs just to access liquidity. I know there are bitcoin holders that will want dollar loans to buy things, but won’t want to pay in the teens for interest rates tied to liquidation risk. Where there’s demand, there’s a product. We’ll see how it shakes out