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Mine either. But there’s probably a bunch of newcomers who put their info in willingly. And are on some primal excel spreadsheet now

I have a burner email that is in the trash sitting on their excel list. It doesn’t tell them anything about who I am šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

It has received one email and nothing else.

You’re forgetting the other half of my message. What about the people that did give the real info

No one forced them to. How many of these people did the same thing on X? Most just don’t care. It’s unfortunate but that’s reality. Most people still use coinbase or kraken lol

That doesnt mean that what primal is doing is right. Coinbase argument is invalid. Dont care maybe. Dont know better maybe closer to reality.

Never said it was right. I just don’t think these practices lead to the EEE conclusion.

They have added their own nonstandard caching protocol, completely don’t work with private relays, and are extending the protocol in nonstandard ways. Now all that remains is closing the exits.

Who has the authority to say what the standard way is?

How can they close the exits?

Who has the authority to say what BIPs are used for bitcoin?

The majority implementation

Exactly

Is that how nostr works too?

No one

So why are there quite a few used in bitcoin core for example?

That’s the consensus I’m guessing. But you can still use others and be forked off.

BIPs are not my area of expertise. Not sure how that relates to nostr.

It relates to nostr because we have nips. Nostr improvement proposal. There’s consensus for those too. Primal is not following consensus with a lot of its developments.

But I don’t think we need consensus on nostr the way we need it on Bitcoin. Primal doing its own thing doesn’t seem to affect damus and amethyst. Unless I’m wrong.

How about the tags when someone on primal replies to a note?

All the clients need to ā€œspeak the same languageā€ or it doesn’t really work

Can you explain your position nostr:npub12262qa4uhw7u8gdwlgmntqtv7aye8vdcmvszkqwgs0zchel6mz7s6cgrkj and why you think primal is doing EEE? Or link to a note ID where you explained it before.

It’s annoying as fuck lmao but it doesn’t break nostr is my point. We don’t have a network of nodes that enforces consensus on nostr.

A lot of notes and notifications that I don’t see on primal but I see on damus and others.

I would say relays are similar to nodes. Not the same but similar

Yeah that’s an annoying problem. The free market will fix all this. They will either do it themselves, or someone else will offer something better.

Already other great options on ios and android. But Primal keeps being pushed because it’s so convenient.

Normies man. Tell them to set up a wallet on alby or coin os and they lose their minds. We’re not going to onboard people to nostr if we need them to learn anything to do with lightning lol

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They kinda have to learn a strict minimum even with the kyc wallet. whats an address. How to send/receive. Solutions like wallet of satoshi or coinos are very normie friendly. But yes. I get your point

One step at a time. Imagine joining nostr as a normie and people are welcoming you by telling you to run a lightning node šŸ˜µā€šŸ’«

Thats crazy. I said wallet of satoshi or coinos. Not LND or CLN + channel management šŸ˜‚

I know lol I’m just saying that’s what a lot of hardcore nostr bros expect

Thats unrealistic šŸ˜‚

Asking homie to go from citibank to lnd+channel management in one jump šŸ˜‚

I know šŸ˜‚

I literally ran into this issue last night trying to onboard someone! Fuck, wish I knew about coinos

https://coinos.io/ nwc wallet. Newcomer friendly

I’ll pass the message along! Thanks

Glad I could help

Looking back on your thread, they hated that primal asked for an email and shut that option down immediately lol